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The HDI difference between the United States as a whole and the richest places in the EU is negligible. And the United States has delivered that wealth across a diverse, continent sized nation. European prosperity is unfortunately limited to the privileged few, while the Eastern and Southern European members of the EU remain in comparative poverty. And this is all without addressing that the research, medicine, and technology which makes your life possible are all largely the products of an American system that specifically promotes the ingenuity that makes those inventions possible.


This suite of claims is pretty dumb.

HDI is a very poor metric for what you're discussing since it explicitly doesn't take into account wealth disparity and access to basic things like healthcare.

Research, medicine, tech, etc. is not "largely products of an American system". Medicine specifically, since R&D is my field of expertise, is a hugely international effort and "inventing" basically just correlates with GDP, which also correlates with population. I.e. more people = more inventions. Strong economy = more inventions. We aren't disproportionately creating medicine relative to our population and GDP, and the countries that do massively outperform us on these metrics are places like the UK. Additionally, lots of drugs get classified as "American invented" even though it originated in Chinese research and was partnered in America to take it to market. My lab does this a lot actually. We get a lot of that juicy chinese money.
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https://abload.de/img/20210918_231113lwkep.jpg

this pepper spray in your face is just for your health


The crazy got clearly stopped. No idea how strong is this gel/spray


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GOP: What Biden did to our allies in Afghanistan is unforgiveable. They risked their lives to save Americans.
Also GOP: We can't let our allies from Afghanistan come here. They're brown and dirty.
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GOP: What Biden did to our allies in Afghanistan is unforgiveable. They risked their lives to save Americans.
Also GOP: We can't let our allies from Afghanistan come here. They're brown and dirty.


It isn't exactly big news that there's a ton of disagreement between the neocon and the nativist faction of the GOP...



Also, is there really a noteworthy number of Republicans saying that no Afghan allies should be allowed to come to America at all? Afaik, the debate is centered around much more nuanced questions:

- how much of their family can they bring along
- the tasks that make them eligible (does every cook or low-level clerk really have to fear for his life?)
- whether persons who were not directly helpers of the U.S. armed forces, but worked for liberal NGOs, should come too
- which degree of vetting should be applied before allowing the selected groups in


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Sep 18 2021 09:47pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 18 2021 10:31pm)
It isn't exactly big news that there's a ton of disagreement between the neocon and the nativist faction of the GOP...



Also, is there really a noteworthy number of Republicans saying that no Afghan allies should be allowed to come to America at all? Afaik, the debate is centered around much more nuanced questions:

- how much of their family can they bring along
- the tasks that make them eligible (does every cook or low-level clerk really have to fear for his life?)
- whether persons who were not directly helpers of the U.S. armed forces, but worked for liberal NGOs, should come too
- which degree of vetting should be applied before allowing the selected groups in


I'm not inclined to think any "nuanced questions" are of real interest to the GOP. They actively made getting all of those groups visas harder under Trump and Trump made no plans that I'm aware of to help any of those groups. So since the previous administration faced no pushback that I'm aware of when unilaterally making it more difficult to get our allies of all stripes in I'm comfortably chalking all of those questions up as performative instead of good faith.
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Sep 18 2021 10:00pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 19 2021 04:04am)
GOP: What Biden did to our allies in Afghanistan is unforgiveable. They risked their lives to save Americans.
Also GOP: We can't let our allies from Afghanistan come here. They're brown and dirty.


afghan "refugees" killed each other in my country. so yeah, they are a menace.
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 19 2021 04:04am)
GOP: What Biden did to our allies in Afghanistan is unforgiveable. They risked their lives to save Americans.
Also GOP: We can't let our allies from Afghanistan come here. They're brown and dirty.


https://apnews.com/article/europe-austria-migration-government-and-politics-8194249c84d0c7413ee94b23c09bb111

afghans raping and murdering 13 yos.

what harm can they really do?
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