what of those is germany for example? or the united kingdom? or all the other nations whose social policies you people would reject as "socialist"?

also, it's amazing how every single one of you has to include the good old "homogenous" dogwhistle. just cant help it, huh? propaganda really has done a number on your tiny brains...

it's all excuses. fact is: the most unapologetically capitalist country in the world leads the west in terms of poverty and shitty working conditions.
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We had a shit load of oil wealth. We gave it to private interests.

"Close knit homogenous" just means "I don't want to stop beating minorities"

*laughs in Keystone XL pipeline*

Strawman. Unlike you, we're all aware of the distinction between 'social democracy', i.e. a capitalist order with a more active state and girthy social safety net, and 'socialism', i.e. public ownership of the means of production.
Your attempts to slander us by intentionally conflating us with uneducated rednecks who reflexively shout "socialism!!!!11" at anything to the left of Rand Paul are disingenuous and pathetic.



Per capita, the oil wealth of the U.S. doesn't hold a candle to Norway. (76 barrel per capita in the U.S. vs 2132 in Norway.)
https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Energy/Oil/Reserves-per-capita

Norway has more than 8x the production we do on a per capita basis.

Ethnic homogeneity is strongly and significantly associated with higher levels of social trust. Only Protestantism has a higher observed impact. It's difficult to establish complex welfare systems when you're composed of a variety of different cultural/ethnic groups that don't share the same underlying values.

https://scholar.google.ca/scholar?q=predicting+cross+national+levels+trust&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3D0owvR1pStSIJ

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Hell, Afghani refugees don't even know what a clock is.

you're kidding me, right? pard right wingers are EXACTLY the kind of "uneducated rednecks" you're talking about, uncritically regurgitating those propagandist takes on what constitutes "socialism", and what consequences it has - and although you really should know better since you're not american, you happily sympathise and even participate in it. talk about disingenuous, lol...

it's also very telling that you constantly not just dodge the point i highlighted several times, but repeatedly even edit it out of the quote you make:

fact is: the most unapologetically capitalist country in the world leads the west in terms of poverty and shitty working conditions. and that's a direct consequence of socialism for the rich, and rugged individualism for the poor - a system designed and perpetuated (through fearmongering, disinformation, propaganda...) by the wealthy individuals whose boots you love to lick so eagerly...

The United States has an excellent HDI on par with the other Anglosphere nations. Considering the United States has personally financed global security over the past 75 years, and simultaneously had to clean up the mess left by both the colonial powers and the genocidal German occupation, that's pretty impressive.