way to miss my point (conveniently left out of your quote): the most unapologetically capitalist country in the world leads the west in terms of poverty and shitty working conditions.

also dishonestly ignored in that silly little mental gymnastics performance of yours: according to (american) right wingers, "socialism / communism" is when the state does something (except of course handouts to the rich that invented and perpetuated the propaganda you fell victim to), so all the countries with the highest living standards, the happiest and healthiest people in the world, they all live in "socialist" hellholes...



This post was edited by fender on Sep 16 2021 06:13pm

oh look, the socialism defenders and apologists are here again

norway takes all the benefits of capitalism, but is one of the few places on earth with a homogenous society that allows having full support for a large welfare state

lmao too easy



unlimited disposal income thanks to oil reserves too, which heinrich is not a fan of (gas is only for chambers, according to him)

This post was edited by excellence on Sep 16 2021 07:15pm

they did it right, have a competitive economy even without oil money so that can serve as a long term investment

absolute champs

Even Norway is not a counterexample. He's just backpedaling to "I said 'socialism', but actually meant 'social democracy'".

Norway also has super racist black metal

Do you realize Norway sits on a mountain of cash they got from exploiting vast oil and gas fields? And they invested that cash like true capitalists would? And basically all those incredible pensions / healthcare / etc etc are funded by this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Pension_Fund_of_Norway

Now compare that to true socialists countries like Venezuela and what they did with the cash they got from their vast oil and natural gas reserves and ask yourself who is performing silly little mental gymnastics here mr fenderp.

Where are the happy people that live in Venezuela? They're the 1% corrupt government officials, the country cannot be compared to countries like the US and it's indeed a socialist hellhole were people die because of lack of all kind of basic necessities.

Way to try scoring points by taking capitalist Norway as your socialist example lmao. Try harder next time

im so proud that's still around



as a blacksmith the sweaty metal pounding is my utopia

This post was edited by thesnipa on Sep 17 2021 07:54am

I know. Why can't we be a small, close-knit, culturally homogenous state with a trillion dollars in oil wealth?