ok



i asked u where i moved left, and preempted u with UBI as an example i can see. u jumped on UBI because u had no examples.

but just more proof u cant read well. i NEVER talk about UBI or the sheeple Wall-E future as utiopian. Ever. not even a single time. i say its necessary to hold back starvation and riots, as u seem to observe above, but then quickly abandon to make another strawman argument. will there be fringe positives, yes. will it be overwhelmingly negative for the human race in far more ways, YES. 100x Yes. i keep telling people they need to start now to remain self reliant and stop from being a govt slave, buy land, grow food, raise animals, get thrifty and DIY. how is that pro ubi utopia? you see what u want to see because u cant admit you're wrong. and will continue to do so.



left/right judgements are simplistic, even if accurate. of course it's "left", i never stated otherwise, i said its simplistic. over and over. shocker u didnt pick up on agreement there, because u can only see what u want to see. yes it is far left, and done WHERE the govt cares about its people. there is authoritarian and libertarian leftist spheres. China isnt in the right area of the spectrum to care enough about its own people to pay for them not to starve. one dies one billion to take their place. people starving helps them control population, just like death camps, organ farming, unsafe working conditions, rural exploitation, and any other number of tactics they're using right now.

one day, china will pay its citizens UBI, likely tagged to their control plan with social scoring. but it still wont be because they care, or to stop riots, because they have tanks and bullets to stop riots, unlike America where Kent State images prevent the authoritarian response china calls any given Tuesday.



thus why im calling for a creeping incremental plan that's not like Yangs, criticized Yang as using 1k/month as an infeasible plan to grab youth votes from uninformed, and said it wouldnt work how he proposed it. go back, read, u forgot. and are strawmanning, again.



UBI inflation is the largest issue with UBI, as ive stated all along. and an incremental targetted approach not to ALL citizens, as ive proposed time and again, dampens this inordinately compared to Yangs 1k$/month idiocy.

Yang is nothing but a spokesman for 2050 politics, as i stated all along.



ive been talking about UBI, offering the most reasonable incremental plan of anyone in PARD by far, but u know me as "the UBI guy", replace all of my stances with Yangs, and set up a gang bang of strawmans to go to town on.

u shouldnt laugh, u should think twice about how off u are, but wont. ive got u too worked up to do that, the insults are the cape, you're the bull. ive walked u into making terrible posts for a week now. you jumped from china loves its people and will save them from starvation to Thesnipa wants to inflate the economy with 1k$/month checks. just a joke of a stumbling path through logic and reason.

and for those keeping score, u just lost 2 iq points on my scoreboard.

still cant answer "what has thesnipa moved left on" other than UBI strawmans lol. the example I gave you, and u still bungled.

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 6 2021 08:12am

UBI is inherently socialistic in nature, it fits quite well on the spectrum. I know you think you're smarter than most people with how you're trying to frame UBI as this totally new and unique approach of how we will solve problems but lol. You work as a maintenance man for factories, servicing machines and all of a sudden think you've stumbled on how the world should run. Okay. I have to laugh again at you calling yourself a libertarian while pandering for far-left notions. Zero awareness.

Who cares about 2050 politics, my initial post that triggered you had to do with what's happening today. Factories, restaurants, hotels can't find workers today because of runaway spending, lofty benefits, and inflation and your response was some idiotic binary response that it's better than people starving.

i care about 2050 politics because that's when i think UBI will start to be needed in earnest, that's how slow i want to start collections to minimize inflation, economic impact, and corporate offshoring. you know, those things you told me my stances would cause as if i didnt know.

pandering for far left notions, so far i gave u UBI and u have national healthcare, which u also strawmanned me on.

u have me triggered because u told me im all for the 2t$ dem plan (im not) and that i said it was conservative (i didnt) and that i said it must be responsible (i didnt) and that i said im for upping collections to pay for the plan that i support (i didnt, and i dont)?

u just told me im for a bunch of shit im not, based on things u said i also support that i dont, to justify u saying i moved left, when u had no examples except strawmans.

notice i dont tell u what u think, i tell you what u said is wrong, by illustrating it with what you said. its because im not pathetic, i dont need to be a genius to make your basely flawed logic implode on itself. u got so lost u went pro china lol.

nice attempt on the maintenance man tho lol. wow what a haymaker.

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 6 2021 08:34am

He's assumption man. He assumes everything then jumps to a conclusion.

don't even try to fight the elite you pleb

You keep bouncing around with he said she said on various types of tangents. You're continuously pandering for leftist ideology and then when I call you out you give me 13 paragraph responses how that's actually not a leftist talking point and you're actually a libertarian.

Let's get back to my initial point because honestly, I don't have an interest in tracking tens of essay-length responses.

Why is business concern labor shortages concerns today prompt a simplistic binary response that it's better than people starving? Like are you not able to think in degrees? Doesn't it make sense to roll back many of these safety benefits so people get back to work and alleviate this?

his children and grandchildren will be the ones on govt checks in a whitewalled 1 bedroom apparent while he grumbles on his porch, not mine.

even if the coming Skynet apocalypse is only half as bad as i fear ill be overprepared and he'll be underprepared. good, The sins of the father are to be laid upon the children.



a binary response is appropriate when people deny that starvation and riots will happen without UBI, be they in 2030, 2050, or 2100.

what do u mean by "safety benifits"? lockdowns? i was in favor of 2 week lockdowns in the early part of Covid, im not in favor of lockdowns at all now, and havent been for over 6 months or maybe longer.

otherwise i dont even know what u mean.

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 6 2021 08:46am

You cry about me strawmanning you then post some dumb shit like this lol.

This is what you said in response to me posting that article. The issue highlighted is not 2050 bullshit that none of us can accurately predict so it's a waste of our time prognosticating because that's not what's happening today with labor shortages. This isn't an automation issue. This is the issue that is directly caused by a flush of money supply into the system. This is one of the primary reasons why so many people won't go back and take the shitty jobs they've previously had. Studies show this, personal life examples show this. I know many people that are keeping their hours under a certain amount because they don't want to lose unemployment benefits.

If your answer to today's problem is whataboutism in 2050 then this discussion is a waste of time.




This post was edited by ofthevoid on May 6 2021 09:02am

IKR? Hey let's predict how 2050 will be when 2019 was a breeze and all of a sudden a Hoax accepted by the Sheep forever changed life as we know it but HEY let's predict how life will be in 30 years when we will be done in 5 at this rate with the amount of disgusting transgenders who need the spotlight on while we live real issues in real time other than their disgusting weaknesses

This post was edited by SunnyvaleTrailerPark on May 6 2021 09:22am

Not sure if employers are ready for employees yet. Their lowball offers make it seem like they can't afford to have people work for them.