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Sounds like you got triggered like a fuck.

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 25 Jun 2020 10:38)
Sounds like you got triggered like a fuck.

https://i.imgur.com/jsBT9M1.mp4


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/28/us/politics/republican-voters-against-trump.html

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The new initiative is the brainchild of Ms. Longwell; Bill Kristol, the conservative writer; and Tim Miller, a former top aide to former Gov. Jeb Bush of Florida.


Some bitter JEB! holdovers trying to shit on Trump.... sad!

Even Romney people, who surely dont have any good feelings for Trump, think that this effort will be all but futile:

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Kevin Madden, a former top adviser to Senator Mitt Romney of Utah, said the universe of Republican voters who might be opposed to Mr. Trump — who consistently has approval ratings in the high 80s or better from his own party — was too small to make a difference.

“Given the razor-thin margins in several key battleground states in 2016, it’s easy to convince yourself that Republican nose-holders will make or break 2020,” Mr. Madden said. “But they are a smaller universe of voters when compared to Democrats over 60 who voted for Trump in 2016. Same with women voters with high school degrees who previously supported Obama but voted for Trump in 2016. Political operatives getting together to run a few ads targeted at that smaller sliver of voters won’t have much of an impact.”


LAUGH OUT LOUD

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Since the US is now the location of most deaths/cases and no idea or plan on how to control i vote.

Trump Flu is the new official name of COVID19
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 25 2020 04:50am)
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/28/us/politics/republican-voters-against-trump.html

Some bitter JEB! holdovers trying to shit on Trump.... sad!

Even Romney people, who surely dont have any good feelings for Trump, think that this effort will be all but futile:

LAUGH OUT LOUD


It's kind of funny how you switch your tribalism on and off. You concede many of Trump's massive shortcomings, but then call Republicans who point them out bitter.

I'm not sure he's right. Elections are about turnout, and appealing to Republicans to either stay home or vote Biden will in theory depress turnout for Trump.
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It's kind of funny how you switch your tribalism on and off. You concede many of Trump's massive shortcomings, but then call Republicans who point them out bitter.

I'm not sure he's right. Elections are about turnout, and appealing to Republicans to either stay home or vote Biden will in theory depress turnout for Trump.


I think that their grudge with Trump has more to do with power than with policy or conduct; with how Trump's hostile takeover of the Republican party, of their party, has robbed them of most of their influence and power. I indeed believe that this power-factor rather than than their disagreement with Trump's methods and conduct is at the root of their grudge with him.

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The key question for these ads is if there is actually a sizable number of reluctant or Trump-wary voters left in the GOP, or if they have already fled the party over the past 3 years.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 25 2020 03:40pm)
I think that their grudge with Trump has more to do with power than with policy or conduct; with how Trump's hostile takeover of the Republican party, of their party, has robbed them of most of their influence and power. I indeed believe that this power-factor rather than than their disagreement with Trump's methods and conduct is at the root of their grudge with him.

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The key question for these ads is if there is actually a sizable number of reluctant or Trump-wary voters left in the GOP, or if they have already fled the party over the past 3 years.


That doesn't really make sense though.

The vast majority of Republicans in politics spoke out against Trump in some way or another. We can all pull up clips of Cruz, Graham, and Paul speaking honestly about Trump during the campaign, saying things that are obviously true, but now they lick his boots because of cowardly political considerations. Right-leaning journalists will tell you that the majority of Republican politicians talk behind closed doors on what a shitshow Trump and his administration are. Some in conservative media like Glenn Beck opposed him, but came around because otherwise they wouldn't have an audience. The Trump administration and campaign are starved for talent so if you're a Republican operative, it's more lucrative and better for your career to become a Trump defender.

So pointing to the handful of Republicans, like Romney, Bill Kristol, or Tim Miller, who have more incentives to go along with the ridiculousness, but instead choose to oppose it because they have integrity and character, seems kind of silly. It's completely tribalistic to attack the motives and good faith of people who criticize Trump while you basically concede the majority of their criticisms. You're trying to have it both ways.
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Quote (IceMage @ Jun 25 2020 03:56pm)
The Trump administration and campaign are starved for talent.


don't worry iceman
barron trump will really come into his own during trumps 3rd or 4th term
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I'm seriously so sick of hearing about Trump already; he's a fringe candidate who stands no chance at getting the nomination. He's this year's Ron Paul (gets tons of attention on the internet but loses by a landslide).



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