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Apr 3 2019 07:58pm
Quote (majorblood @ 4 Apr 2019 01:54)
where are you even getting these ideas from?


From engaging with actual fascists mainly.

Fascism must be constantly fought and held in check otherwise the next thing you know a white nationalist propagandist is advisor to a racist president who sets about attempting to dismantle your civil rights.

Never mind the violence that I suffer on a weekly basis, both social and institutional, thanks to the spreading of such ideas.

It's all defensive action my friend. Not just defense of my person and rights but of democracy and freedom itself. These things which are continuously under attack by the fash.

This post was edited by TransTankie on Apr 3 2019 07:59pm
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Quote (TransTankie @ Apr 3 2019 08:58pm)
From engaging with actual fascists mainly.

Fascism must be constantly fought and held in check otherwise the next thing you know a white nationalist propagandist is advisor to a racist president who sets about attempting to dismantle your civil rights.

Never mind the violence that I suffer on a weekly basis, both social and institutional, thanks to the spreading of such ideas.

It's all defensive action my friend. Not just defense of my person and rights but of democracy and freedom itself. These things which are continuously under attack by the fash.


Should communism and marxism be held in check? How do you feel about preemptively attacking communists?
also how would you feel about fascists defining who is a communist and who isnt in order to determine who should be attacked and not allowed to speak?
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Apr 3 2019 08:09pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Apr 3 2019 09:03pm)
Should communism and marxism be held in check? How do you feel about preemptively attacking communists?
also how would you feel about fascists defining who is a communist and who isnt in order to determine who should be attacked and not allowed to speak?


Antifascist movements largely operate under the punk rock ethic:

Direct Action: Confrontation and not indirect action like voting
D-I-Y: Do it yourself, don't have people do your work for you.
Don't Sell Out: Don't call the cops. Don't cooperate with the authorities even against enemies. Don't be a bitch.

I think most of us are okay with that and would prefer to draw you out into the open. Shoot of your fingers one by one ;)
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Apr 3 2019 08:13pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ 4 Apr 2019 02:03)
Should communism and marxism be held in check? How do you feel about preemptively attacking communists?
also how would you feel about fascists defining who is a communist and who isnt in order to determine who should be attacked and not allowed to speak?


I mean that's essentially what McCarthyism was.

Also what's wrong with communism? You have an argument for that or is it just a dirty word that isn't allowed in your free marketplace of ideas?

Here's the thing buddy - I don't fully subscribe to communism... I certainly don't support an accelerationist version that advocates for a revolution in which we pull out Madame guillotine and start cutting off the heads of CEOs. However if a communist revolution were to take place you know what you can do to not get the bullet? Give up your capital. Stop exploiting the worker. Pretty simple. You know what I could do to not be killed if the fash took over? Nothing. I already have breasts thanks to estrogen so I'm a degenerate with Jewish heritage... I might be able to hide those things, though likely not what with record keeping being what it is today, but I can't change them. I'd always be a target. A black guy could do even less. Kinda hard to hide your blackness.

The difference between communism and fascism is simple. One is a critique of an ideology. The other is the promotion of an identity and the destruction of anyone who doesn't belong to that identity.
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Apr 3 2019 08:13pm
Quote (TransTankie @ Apr 3 2019 06:58pm)
From engaging with actual fascists mainly.

Fascism must be constantly fought and held in check otherwise the next thing you know a white nationalist propagandist is advisor to a racist president who sets about attempting to dismantle your civil rights.

Never mind the violence that I suffer on a weekly basis, both social and institutional, thanks to the spreading of such ideas.

It's all defensive action my friend. Not just defense of my person and rights but of democracy and freedom itself. These things which are continuously under attack by the fash.


i'm talking about these ideas you have of cambo. also, what violence is occurring to you weekly?
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Apr 3 2019 08:15pm
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Should communism and marxism be held in check? How do you feel about preemptively attacking communists?
also how would you feel about fascists defining who is a communist and who isnt in order to determine who should be attacked and not allowed to speak?


communism shouldn't be held in check but capitalists have the moral right to do so if they honestly believe capitalism is good and just. considering the level of delusion that takes those people would probably in psychiatric hospitals though
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Quote (Devil_cuck @ Apr 3 2019 09:15pm)
communism shouldn't be held in check but capitalists have the moral right to do so if they honestly believe capitalism is good and just. considering the level of delusion that takes those people would probably in psychiatric hospitals though


Psych hospitals are a blast as long as you can tune out the ambient screaming.
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Quote (Devil_cuck @ Apr 3 2019 09:15pm)
communism shouldn't be held in check but capitalists have the moral right to do so if they honestly believe capitalism is good and just. considering the level of delusion that takes those people would probably in psychiatric hospitals though


yep literally everyone else is a mental patient aside from the handful of misfit delusional communists that see fascists around every corner. you got it.
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Quote (Skinned @ Apr 3 2019 10:17pm)
Psych hospitals are a blast as long as you can tune out the ambient screaming.


great places for meeting new and interesting people

Quote (cambovenzi @ Apr 3 2019 10:18pm)
yep literally everyone else is a mental patient aside from the handful of misfit delusional communists that see fascists around every corner. you got it.


imagine wanting to be subjugated and coerced by a system that's invalidated by its own history of property theft. put a yikes on that one for me big boy

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