Afaik Netanyahu has extremely low approval ratings now. Not only from his personal vendetta against Israels judicial system, essentially a cult of personality where he sought to become a dictator/president for life style leader.
But for his massive failure in allowing an attack like 10/7 to happen on his watch.
He was known as "Mr Security" ironically. Just another example of authoritarian personality cults being utterly dreadful at miltary/security operation. Due to self absorption and lack of good intel akin to Putin or Chi purging those around them that bring "bad news" on anything.

I'm not well enough informed on Israels political parties. But 2 things are clear.
Firstly Netanyahu has been in and around power for decades, he has failed to bring peace and a future for the region.
Secondly his approval is so low, he will be gone before any lasting resolution can begin in earnest.

From what I understand the PLO are very ineffective in terms of having consensus of a majority of Palestinians.
Many Palestinians do see success for the PLO in terms of abolishing the state or Israel. Something that will not happen.
An unattainable goal.
Further Mahmoud Abbas is 87 years old. He is out of touch and generally weak.
When Palestinian leaders seek progress in negotiations it can never deliver what Palestinians believe they deserve which is the whole region become a single state of Palestine.

There needs to be a re evaluation of the possible goals of the Palestinian people in terms of statehood. A leader is needed who can communicate that position and find consensus wherever that position is between abolishing Israel and never having a Palestinian state.

The Saudi are busy manufacturing radical Wahhabism to export globally. It focuses potential opposition to the Saudi regime and directs it elsewhere. Saudi Arabia is as much, if not more, an exporter and supporter of terrorists than Iran is.

Isn't the issue fundamentally from radical Jews that believe the land of Israel is promised to them by God himself.

An absurd idea non compatible with modern existence imo.

whats your view on all this ? i.e. where do you see Israeli politic's heading, say, in the next 2-4 years ?

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 6 2023 05:20am

I see netanyahu going home
And benny gantz or naftali bennet becoming prime minister

I am all for settlements as long as people in it know they will be part of any agreement in the future (to use it as pressure not forever)

I also think the solution should include territorial swap.
Give palestinians land in the southern west bank so Israel will have defendable borders from east to west.
I also think west bank should be demilitarized area, and have an American and Israel to defend and help them if they are attacked from
The outside.

Furthermore, I think there will he war at the north to annihilate hezbollah.

This post was edited by Many_Names on Nov 6 2023 05:28am

Minority and irrelevant
The settlements were part of any offer made to the PLO.

I think saudi understands the oil will not last forever and therefore invest in education
Wahabism and education wont go together

Yeah then Israel might be like the rest of the world....? I've learned a lot of hindu and cribbed a lot of recipes in the past few years. Heck theres a whole little delhi popping up with markets and restaurants

I would agree with that generally. I think radical factions of Islam have brought untold misery to countless numbers of people.

I also think countries in the west should wake up now about having these naive open door policies for migrants from the middle east or any region with radical Islam.

It is a generalisation but in the round i believe it is true; That Muslims, particularly Arab Muslims will always see themselves as Muslims and or Arabs first, before they will ever identify as citizens of western nations. Perhaps understandly so. But this is 100% to the detriment of countries that hold democracy, liberty and personal freedom as tenets of their society.

I can't help but feel like Netanyahu allowing the creeping settlements was more like a realist acknowledging how long dead and abandoned the 2SS was rather than an actual wrench thrown in it. It wasn't like we went straight from Rabin and the Oslo accords and Camp David summit to Israel spiking the peace efforts. It was a few decades of Hamas vowing death to all jews, the total irreconciliable fracture of Palestinian politics and end of elections and a second intifada and multiple US presidents just giving up on it. By the time Netanyahu really started appeasing his far right and leaning into a harder line, the two state solution was less realistic than korean reconciliation.