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May 4 2021 06:00pm
Quote (thundercock @ May 4 2021 07:18pm)
Why are you a paleocon? What are your goals and how does paleoconservatism achieve these goals?

I personally find the ideology abhorrent in practice but I'm curious as to why you're a fan of it.


We all have issues that are important to us. To me, social conservatism/christian values is probably number one. Non-interventionalism is also very important to me. Economic nationalism is the third one.

I'm not a fan of all tenants of paleoconservatism but they fit what I believe much better than any other umbrella group.

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So back to what got us on this tangent

If you think there's an issue with people not swarming to $15 jobs with no benefits, advancement, or stability, then you're just not considering all the factors. Most people would be better off looking for better employment. If we're going to say "minimum wage shouldn't be enough to support a family", then there's no reason to expect people to flock to minimum wage jobs.
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So back to what got us on this tangent

If you think there's an issue with people not swarming to $15 jobs with no benefits, advancement, or stability, then you're just not considering all the factors. Most people would be better off looking for better employment. If we're going to say "minimum wage shouldn't be enough to support a family", then there's no reason to expect people to flock to minimum wage jobs.


"Better" is relative to things like cost of living & various good prices. It's not just minimum wage jobs. Where I live factory jobs, driver jobs, whatever you could make 18-20 to start, and there's still a fuckton of vacancies.

When the choice is to work 40 hours a week to make 800 gross or sit on unemployment and make 600 and maybe find some side hustle to make another few hundred bucks the choice is easy.


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"Better" is relative to things like cost of living & various good prices. It's not just minimum wage jobs. Where I live factory jobs, driver jobs, whatever you could make 18-20 to start, and there's still a fuckton of vacancies.

When the choice is to work 40 hours a week to make 800 gross or sit on unemployment and make 600 and maybe find some side hustle to make another few hundred bucks the choice is easy.


You're probably missing some key factors there. I know plenty of places that are always hiring, and it's not because they don't get applicants. It's because they treat their workers like shit and have high turnover as a result.

Hell, there's a whole department where I work who is hiring clinical staff that pays 50k starting in a significantly below average CoL area, and they're rehiring all their staff because the doctors were so abusive they all quit at the same time.

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May 4 2021 07:30pm
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You're probably missing some key factors there. I know plenty of places that are always hiring, and it's not because they don't get applicants. It's because they treat their workers like shit and have high turnover as a result.

Hell, there's a whole department where I work who is hiring clinical staff that pays 50k starting in a significantly below average CoL area, and they're rehiring all their staff because the doctors were so abusive they all quit at the same time.

people who work in “education” and especially lefties make horrible employers. shocker. no one wants to work for privileged people with zero people skills and have massive levels of unwarranted self-importance, news at 11

50k isnt below CoL in the middle of some college town. inb4 you claim some gentrified slum section of Columbia, Springfield, or Rolla is expensive.
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people who work in “education” and especially lefties make horrible employers. shocker. no one wants to work for privileged people with zero people skills and have massive levels of unwarranted self-importance, news at 11

50k isnt below CoL in the middle of some college town. inb4 you claim some gentrified slum section of Columbia, Springfield, or Rolla is expensive.


I said in a significantly below average CoL area. Learn 2 read.
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May 4 2021 08:08pm
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I said in a significantly below average CoL area. Learn 2 read.

makes your post look even worse. you say the positions pay “much higher than CoL” but no one wants the “excess” funds to work alongside people like you (who can blame them) and for privileged people with zero people skills and have massive levels of unwarranted self-importance.
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May 4 2021 08:10pm
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makes your post look even worse. you say the positions pay “much higher than CoL” but no one wants the “excess” funds to work alongside people like you (who can blame them) and for privileged people with zero people skills and have massive levels of unwarranted self-importance.


Man you're boring.
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Man you're boring.

your unwarranted pms to me say otherwise. make sure to use mouthwash when you spit-shine those petri-dishes
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May 4 2021 08:43pm
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