Quote (TransTankie @ Apr 3 2019 07:26pm)

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I mean you're either being disingenuous or incredibly fucking stupid here.
No defending free speech is not 'just like Hitler'. Hypocritically pretending you're defending free speech while actively working to shut down speech in opposition to you and only facilitating speech on the right or far right is a solid and pretty ubiquitous fascist tactic.
Cultural Marxism IS a nazi conspiracy theory. It's been renamed from cultural Bolshevism but it's still the same theory. Just like 'the great replacement' is a synonym for 'white genocide;
If you make one descriptive claim of course not. If you are continuously building a body of evidence that is used to support fascist ideology while avoiding any of the descriptive claims used to justify antifascism then yea - you're just being disingenuous by not following it up with the normative claims.

Recognising facts about life is not fascistic. There are plenty of facts that we can draw on to support all kinds of arguments.

It's ok. I understand how easy it is to get sucked down the youtube rabbit hole and end up fapping to Molyneux talking about black people being better labourers than thinkers. As you seem to be educated by youtubers may I suggest another who explains antifascism better than I can be fucked to do in text -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgwS_FMZ3nQ
Then feel free to read https://libcom.org/library/antifa-anti-fascist-handbook
Engage with the 'marketplace of ideas' honestly instead of sucking purely at the teat of fascist propagandists.

Quote (TransTankie @ Apr 3 2019 08:28pm)

Lol. I see you.
'White people are victims'
'protect western culture'
'marxist influence and strategy regarding culture'

You may not even realise it but you're already one of them.

'Being a free speech champion is good'. Of course it is. Which is why I want to maximise free speech for all by removing those elements of society that would deny others their basic human rights and, if taken to their logical conclusions, their very existence. Can't have freedom of speech if you're dead. Can't engage in the marketplace of ideas if you're segregated from society.

We should spend some time together. I'm pretty sure I could deradicalise you at this stage of the process. I'd take action quickly though... much further down the rabbit hole and you'll be over on pol posting pepe memes and laughing about 'kebab removals in New Zealand'. Or you could speak to FaradaySpeaks... He's been where you are now. I'm sure he could help you understand where you're going wrong. I think you want to believe you're a decent person with sensible views... You're just misguided buddy. Let me help you.

Quote (EndlessSky @ 4 Apr 2019 01:37)

LOL

They are a terrorist group in actual practice.

Quote (cambovenzi @ 4 Apr 2019 01:40)

Back here in reality supporting freedom or speech, capitalism and not wanting to eliminate western cultural norms is not proof of supporting fascism..

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Apart from all 3 of those positions being common among fascists... ok. It's not proof. It's a pretty strong indicator though and when combined with the white victimhood and cultural marxist narratives it's brushing up real close. But that's why I say you can be saved. You can still turn around if you actually care about 'facts and logic'. I can help. If you're a rational actor and you're right I shouldn't be able to convince you otherwise... and if you're wrong you'd want to know right? Plus wouldn't you really like to see what goes on inside antifascist groups? Could make for a good experience getting in with the 'alt-left' and seeing what they're like. I go into fascist spaces all the time so I know what I'm up against.

Up to you though. I highly suspect you don't give a fuck about being reasonable anyway. Anything to 'protect western culture' and the 'white victims' from the 'cultural marxists

Quote (TransTankie @ Apr 3 2019 08:41pm)

Not according to the definition set out by the global terrorism index.
But even if they were would that necessarily make them bad or wrong? If their violence is directed toward those attempting to enact violence against them or people they care about are they in the wrong?
They're also not really even a 'group'. You can be an antifascist on your own or as a member of a group. Usually antifascists organise with other local antifascists to carry out actions against local threats.
Being antifascist is an ideology. It is not a 'group' in the sense that you mean.


Apart from all 3 of those positions being common among fascists... ok. It's not proof. It's a pretty strong indicator though and when combined with the white victimhood and cultural marxist narratives it's brushing up real close. But that's why I say you can be saved. You can still turn around if you actually care about 'facts and logic'. I can help. If you're a rational actor and you're right I shouldn't be able to convince you otherwise... and if you're wrong you'd want to know right? Plus wouldn't you really like to see what goes on inside antifascist groups? Could make for a good experience getting in with the 'alt-left' and seeing what they're like. I go into fascist spaces all the time so I know what I'm up against.

Up to you though. I highly suspect you don't give a fuck about being reasonable anyway. Anything to 'protect western culture' and the 'white victims' from the 'cultural marxists'. :rofl:

Quote (cambovenzi @ 4 Apr 2019 01:47)

Imagine defending against allegations of belonging to and supporting a terrorist group based on the fact that one index doesn't list them as such, that their terrorist violence against people isn't wrong in your view, and because antifa isn't necessarily a formal group

yikes

Quote (TransTankie @ Apr 3 2019 06:53pm)

Ok buddy :)

Better shave your head and get to home depot before they run out of tiki torches. Just watch out for the trans person in black-bloc walking up behind you with a baseball bat.

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