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May 4 2021 02:13pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ May 4 2021 03:10pm)
Lol beatdowns. Settle down there big guy. I know optics are important for you on here but don't get carried away.

The fact of the matter, I'm a conservative and my principles and ideology have remained fairly consistent throughout the years. I


This is not something to be proud of. You should update your ideas as you get new evidence. If you've gone your entire adult life without significantly shifting your views of the world you have failed pretty hard at life.
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May 4 2021 02:20pm
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This is not something to be proud of. You should update your ideas as you get new evidence. If you've gone your entire adult life without significantly shifting your views of the world you have failed pretty hard at life.


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I consider myself a paleocon as most of my views most resemble Pat Buchannons. This is something I've settled into long ago after completing my first bachelor's and it's who i am.

My fundamental ideology doesn't need much updating. Most of them have some underlying philosophical ideology that doesn't change with time.

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Lol beatdowns. Settle down there big guy. I know optics are important for you on here but don't get carried away.

The fact of the matter, I'm a conservative and my principles and ideology have remained fairly consistent throughout the years. I have no confusion about what's important to me nor what things like fiscal conservatism mean or what being a social conservative means. I value consistency.

You on the other hand, because most of our culture & society is moving left-ward are also moving left-ward. It happens to people who are more concerned about how others perceive them rather than being grounded in principles.

Do you ever wonder why you're increasingly finding yourself in more agreement with leftists on this forum? People like Bogie, Goom, I, Cam even the some of the leftists have stayed fairly stationary on the political spectrum, meanwhile you're trying your hardest to prove that your moving with the times.


i'll take your abandonment of the china/ubi topic to mean you've realize you made a rather embarrassing mistake.

i came into pard testing as a left libertarian, and i remain the same.

can you name a single topic i've "moved left" on?

i disagree with thor, skinned, etc quite often. only member of pard i have blacklisted is Fender. shame u can't actually pay attention to that tho.

when i entered pard ubi wasnt a thing, maybe ive "moved left" by adopting that into my stances. all of the rest im the same on tbh.

tbh ur issues is u take my disagreement with GOP tactics to mean im anti GOP-aims. i still want a secure border even if i hate the idea of an ineffectual wall for instance. i still support having a well funded police force, even if i want different training and standards. i could go on, but ill give u a chance to back up your claim first.
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i'll take your abandonment of the china/ubi topic to mean you've realize you made a rather embarrassing mistake.

i came into pard testing as a left libertarian, and i remain the same.

can you name a single topic i've "moved left" on?

i disagree with thor, skinned, etc quite often. only member of pard i have blacklisted is Fender. shame u can't actually pay attention to that tho.

when i entered pard ubi wasnt a thing, maybe ive "moved left" by adopting that into my stances. all of the rest im the same on tbh.

tbh ur issues is u take my disagreement with GOP tactics to mean im anti GOP-aims. i still want a secure border even if i hate the idea of an ineffectual wall for instance. i still support having a well funded police force, even if i want different training and standards. i could go on, but ill give u a chance to back up your claim first.


lol @ left-libertarian.

You are continuously arguing for the government to take more responsibility and you consider yourself a libertarian? How does that work? No wonder, you're at odds with Cam on almost everything. Like fiscal conservatism, you're basically butchering definitions and cherry-picking things that words mean to fit your 2021 definition.

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lol @ left-libertarian.

You are continuously arguing for the government to take more responsibility and you consider yourself a libertarian? How does that work? No wonder, you're at odds with Cam on almost everything. Like fiscal conservatism, you're basically butchering definitions and cherry-picking things that words mean to fit your 2021 definition.


on which topic?

healthcare? i am in support of nationalized healthcare, and was when i entered pard in 2010 or so, due only to costs. i fully expect an ineffectual system, its a pure cost/pragmatism decision. and like my other stances im for an incremental system building on the existing medicare system to entice more and more people willingly until the pool is large enough to justify doing away with conventional healthcare insurance, to be replaced by M4A with a legal supplemental insurance system for those interested, as well as pay to play private clinics.

see i can argue myself if ur not willing to do more than bullshit hack.

what is 1 single topic that i have "moved left" on. 1. just 1 topic.

im not even saying you're inherently wrong, but you're just bullshitting. im sure u could get me, and i would be happy to admit you're right. because im not a massive pussy as seen here in the china/ubi discussion. u tied urself into a pretzel then squirmed into ad homs. ok, i can go there u fresh of the boat potato eating sub optimal iq bull in a china shop.
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May 4 2021 02:38pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ May 4 2021 03:20pm)
No thanks

I consider myself a paleocon as most of my views most resemble Pat Buchannons. This is something I've settled into long ago after completing my first bachelor's and it's who i am.

My fundamental ideology doesn't need much updating. Most of them have some underlying philosophical ideology that doesn't change with time.


Critical thought has never been your strong suit
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May 4 2021 04:23pm
a completely unrelated answer

Harris Refuses To Criticize China & Fails To Name Anything Biden Has Done To Hold Them Accountable
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gRHhCD1X1J0/

generally correct political song :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AALREbJZEZk
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Quote (thesnipa @ May 4 2021 04:32pm)
on which topic?

healthcare? i am in support of nationalized healthcare, and was when i entered pard in 2010 or so, due only to costs. i fully expect an ineffectual system, its a pure cost/pragmatism decision. and like my other stances im for an incremental system building on the existing medicare system to entice more and more people willingly until the pool is large enough to justify doing away with conventional healthcare insurance, to be replaced by M4A with a legal supplemental insurance system for those interested, as well as pay to play private clinics.

see i can argue myself if ur not willing to do more than bullshit hack.

what is 1 single topic that i have "moved left" on. 1. just 1 topic.

im not even saying you're inherently wrong, but you're just bullshitting. im sure u could get me, and i would be happy to admit you're right. because im not a massive pussy as seen here in the china/ubi discussion. u tied urself into a pretzel then squirmed into ad homs. ok, i can go there u fresh of the boat potato eating sub optimal iq bull in a china shop.


You support UBI
You support higher taxes to match spending
You inherently support massive spending because that's what UBI or nationalized healthcare is.
All of those lead to bigger governments, more spending, and so on -- all are antithetical and diametrically opposed to what libertarianism stands for.

Just because you're don't care about social issues and adopted the mainstream woke platform doesn't make you a libertarian.
What exactly are you libertarian on? Things like gay marriage? Congrats dude, real maverick you are! Is that what a left-libertarian is nowadays?

There's nothing contradictory about my China point. The fact of the matter is you're arguing for things that would put us to the left of China on the fiscal side of the coin. Again, all 'cool' and 'in' takes in 2021, just spend more!

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May 4 2021 04:46pm
https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1389593515143966723

Really fascinating how Trump has incentivized perpetual victimhood for Republican politicians.
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May 4 2021 05:18pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ May 4 2021 01:20pm)
No thanks

I consider myself a paleocon as most of my views most resemble Pat Buchannons. This is something I've settled into long ago after completing my first bachelor's and it's who i am.

My fundamental ideology doesn't need much updating. Most of them have some underlying philosophical ideology that doesn't change with time.


Why are you a paleocon? What are your goals and how does paleoconservatism achieve these goals?

I personally find the ideology abhorrent in practice but I'm curious as to why you're a fan of it.
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