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May 10 2020 08:00am
Quote (Goomshill @ May 10 2020 05:45am)
Oh boy and I hadn't seen this before I posted that
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/07/851712311/u-s-field-hospitals-stand-down-most-without-treating-any-covid-19-patients
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/faucis-follies-us-coronavirus-field-hospitals-shut-without-treating-single-patient-garbage-models-used-us-experts/


The corps of engineers constructed numerous field hospitals for the crisis, I knew a few people in management on those projects
Total budget was $660 million
they created capacity for 14,817 beds at the same time
they treated a total of 1,177 patients, of which 1,095 were at the NYC Javits center field hospital with 1900 beds and $11m budget
meaning that of the other 12,917 beds, only 82 patients were treated
those hospitals are now being decommissioned

To repeat. Of the 12917 beds constructed and nurses standing ready to treat patients, only 82 were treated. At a cost of $650 million. Approximately $800k per patient.
Of the 17 largest facilities they had on record, 9 had treated 0 patients total, and 4 were not completed

These were all constructed under the projections of hospital beds being overwhelmed, with a need to 'flatten the curve' so the healthcare system wouldn't be overwhelmed


#flattenthecurve
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Quote (EndlessSky @ May 10 2020 07:00am)
#flattenthecurve


wonder why?
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May 10 2020 08:32am
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8304471/Chinas-president-Xi-Jinping-personally-requested-delay-COVID-19-pandemic-warning.html

Pretty shocking allegations by Der Spiegel against the WHO. If true, it would certainly validate Trump's decision to cut funding. Allowing China to install its chosen leaders from poor African countries it largely controls (at least economically) is obviously an enormous mistake. We really need to re-examine how these institutions work.
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May 10 2020 08:36am
Quote (bogie160 @ May 10 2020 10:32am)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8304471/Chinas-president-Xi-Jinping-personally-requested-delay-COVID-19-pandemic-warning.html

Pretty shocking allegations by Der Spiegel against the WHO. If true, it would certainly validate Trump's decision to cut funding. Allowing China to install its chosen leaders from poor African countries it largely controls (at least economically) is obviously an enormous mistake. We really need to re-examine how these institutions work.


Agreed.
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May 10 2020 09:13am
Quote (bogie160 @ May 10 2020 10:32am)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8304471/Chinas-president-Xi-Jinping-personally-requested-delay-COVID-19-pandemic-warning.html

Pretty shocking allegations by Der Spiegel against the WHO. If true, it would certainly validate Trump's decision to cut funding. Allowing China to install its chosen leaders from poor African countries it largely controls (at least economically) is obviously an enormous mistake. We really need to re-examine how these institutions work.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/20/world/asia/coronavirus-china-symptoms.html

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“Now we can say it is certain that it is a human-to-human transmission phenomenon,” Dr. Zhong Nanshan, a scientist who is leading a government-appointed expert panel on the outbreak, said in an interview on state-run television on Monday.


This came out the day before Xi supposedly told the WHO to hold off.

This post was edited by IceMage on May 10 2020 09:14am
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May 10 2020 09:18am
Quote (theCrossbones @ May 10 2020 10:19am)
wonder why?


The fearmongering spread by journalists was that hospitals would saturate capacity. That was never even close here.

Now we are in the worst possible situation. A second wave would be almost as bad as the first but our economy can't take another hit.

Quote (bogie160 @ May 10 2020 10:32am)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8304471/Chinas-president-Xi-Jinping-personally-requested-delay-COVID-19-pandemic-warning.html

Pretty shocking allegations by Der Spiegel against the WHO. If true, it would certainly validate Trump's decision to cut funding. Allowing China to install its chosen leaders from poor African countries it largely controls (at least economically) is obviously an enormous mistake. We really need to re-examine how these institutions work.


Are we even fucking surprised?

This post was edited by EndlessSky on May 10 2020 09:19am
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Quote (bogie160 @ May 10 2020 04:32pm)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8304471/Chinas-president-Xi-Jinping-personally-requested-delay-COVID-19-pandemic-warning.html

Pretty shocking allegations by Der Spiegel against the WHO. If true, it would certainly validate Trump's decision to cut funding. Allowing China to install its chosen leaders from poor African countries it largely controls (at least economically) is obviously an enormous mistake. We really need to re-examine how these institutions work.


I'm with you here Bogie.
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May 10 2020 10:05am
Quote (EndlessSky @ May 10 2020 08:18am)
The fearmongering spread by journalists was that hospitals would saturate capacity. That was never even close here.

Now we are in the worst possible situation. A second wave would be almost as bad as the first but our economy can't take another hit.



Are we even fucking surprised?


was fear mongering.. Was also actions made a significant effect. I agree the economy cannot take another hit.
IE trump & states should of come up with a RE OPENING PLAN
You still ride that bandwagon tho.. So when it crashes you get to blame HIM I'll still be working.. hope you like the taste of your own dog

This post was edited by theCrossbones on May 10 2020 10:09am
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A report published by Italy’s statistics bureau on Monday showed nationwide deaths were up 39% since the first official COVID-19 death occurred, compared with an average of the same period during the previous five years.

Just over half of these “excess deaths” were registered as caused by COVID-19. The remaining 46% were most likely to be deaths caused by the virus among patients who were not tested for it, or else deaths that could be attributed to the strain on the health system, the bureau said.


https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-russia-casualties/moscow-reports-18-more-deaths-in-april-than-same-month-last-year-idUKKBN22M0IU?il=0&utm_source=reddit.com
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May 10 2020 02:47pm
Quote (bogie160 @ 10 May 2020 16:32)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8304471/Chinas-president-Xi-Jinping-personally-requested-delay-COVID-19-pandemic-warning.html

Pretty shocking allegations by Der Spiegel against the WHO. If true, it would certainly validate Trump's decision to cut funding. Allowing China to install its chosen leaders from poor African countries it largely controls (at least economically) is obviously an enormous mistake. We really need to re-examine how these institutions work.


I would wait for more sources...
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