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Jun 23 2020 08:40am
Quote (IceMage @ 23 Jun 2020 16:36)
Lawl.

It may just be more a function of Trump's unwillingness to take responsibility for anything. He may have given the okay, but he doesn't want to be held responsible for it.


The way I imagine how it went down is like this: Trump and Barr meet and talk about various issues. Then, Trump starts complaining about this yugely unfair and incompetent district attorney from SDNY. So sad!! Then he says to Barr "Would really be great if *pause* someone did *anotherpause* something about it". Barr picks up the cue, and since he's a loyal trooper, he fires that guy the next day. Trump "had absolutely nothing to do with it", but is of course elated.

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Jun 23 2020 08:50am
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The way I imagine how it went down is like this: Trump and Barr meet and talk about various issues. Then, Trump starts complaining about this yugely unfair and incompetent district attorney from SDNY. So sad!! Then he says to Barr "Would really be great if *pause* someone did *anotherpause* something about it". Barr picks up the cue, and since he's a loyal trooper, he fires that guy the next day. Trump "had absolutely nothing to do with it", but is of course elated.


i think this happens a lot. people know what trump wants, and they know he wants plausible deniability. they sign up to be fall guys in the event it goes south, but to rise in the ranks if it doesnt.
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Jun 23 2020 08:54am
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i think this happens a lot. people know what trump wants, and they know he wants plausible deniability. they sign up to be fall guys in the event it goes south, but to rise in the ranks if it doesnt.


I think this happens in most administrations in some form. Trump's administration is just more brazen and clumsy about it. And he has the media on his ass 24/7, while certain predecessors were the darling of the media and could do no wrong.
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Jun 23 2020 09:04am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jun 23 2020 09:54am)
I think this happens in most administrations in some form. Trump's administration is just more brazen and clumsy about it. And he has the media on his ass 24/7, while certain predecessors were the darling of the media and could do no wrong.


to an extent yes, but liberal regimes have the advantage that if their deep dark secret asks are leaked the media wont lambaste them. if a liberal potus was dumb and asked "why do we even have police" in a closed doors meeting, and it leaked, he'd be celebrated.
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Jun 23 2020 09:10am
Quote (IceMage @ Jun 23 2020 10:36am)
Lawl.

It may just be more a function of Trump's unwillingness to take responsibility for anything. He may have given the okay, but he doesn't want to be held responsible for it.



I understand thinking of Trump as a complete idiot, because he is in many ways, but in others he's not. Trump fired the last SDNY US attorney after he had multiple phone calls with him, something Preet Bharara said never happened once with Obama. Of course Trump knows who runs SDNY, because they are the district who would prosecute anything related to Trump's organization, and who prosecuted Cohen and investigated Trump's inaugural fund and Trump's personal attorney.


Because he doesn't see himself as responsible, at least not directly. It's a reflection of how he perceives the situation. Barr wanted him gone, and he obliged. In Trump's mind, that is Barr's decision.

Why would Trump suddenly be shy about exercising his authority when he has shown zero compunction against using it (even when it appears to benefit him personally) in the past?

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So would this be equal to Obama’s AG firing a US Attorney to protect HRC?


No, I think this a misinterpretation of Barr's reasons for firing Berman. The Democratic party believes that mass protests which benefit them politically or which they support are good, despite and irrespective of the dangers posed by Covid-19. They simultaneously believe that religious funeral gatherers (in this case, Jews) are bad because they spread Covid-19. The position is ridiculous at face value, obviously hypocritical, and a source of great resentment among religious groups and conservatives. Berman aligned himself with that end of the spectrum at the same time that Barr was publishing a letter critical of the aforementioned obvious hypocrisy. If Berman's position was tenuous before, this is the figurative straw that broke the camel's back.
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Because he doesn't see himself as responsible, at least not directly. It's a reflection of how he perceives the situation. Barr wanted him gone, and he obliged. In Trump's mind, that is Barr's decision.

Why would Trump suddenly be shy about exercising his authority when he has shown zero compunction against using it (even when it appears to benefit him personally) in the past?


Yeah, that perfectly aligns with what I said. Ultimately Trump is responsible for the decision, but he wants to pass it off on someone else because he's a horrible leader.
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Jun 23 2020 06:13pm
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the above is your inspiration
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the above is your inspiration


Being obsessed with some minor political operative is pretty weird, even by Trump cult standards. Get help man.
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