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Quote (Handcuffs @ 7 Sep 2021 21:21)
My point though is that the "mainstream media is liberal" is a meme. I don't think you realize how influential, prominent, and 'mainstream' conservative media is in the United States--particularly since you don't live here. It would be like me speculating as to the media breakdown in Germany.


Maybe this is a function of my own implicit biases. As a foreigner, my percpetion will almost automatically get shaped disproportionately by channels like CNN (only US channel airing on free tv in Germany afaik), by high-quality newspapers of record like the NY Times or the WaPo, and by similarly elite publications like The Atlantic or NY magazine.

All in all, I still think that national media does on aggregate have a distinct liberal slant. But you and thor are probably right that I'm vastly underestimating how big and influential local news and talk radio are since these are types of media I engage with significantly less than someone actually living in the States.
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Maybe this is a function of my own implicit biases. As a foreigner, my percpetion will almost automatically get shaped disproportionately by channels like CNN (only US channel airing on free tv in Germany afaik), by high-quality newspapers of record like the NY Times or the WaPo, and by similarly elite publications like The Atlantic or NY magazine.

All in all, I still think that national media does on aggregate have a distinct liberal slant. But you and thor are probably right that I'm vastly underestimating how big and influential local news and talk radio are since these are types of media I engage with significantly less than someone actually living in the States.


You also sponge up right wing talking points without looking any deeper until you're pressed about a dozen times, so there's that too.
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 7 Sep 2021 22:14)
You also sponge up right wing talking points without looking any deeper until you're pressed about a dozen times, so there's that too.


You, too, sponge up (left wing) talking points far more than you want to admit. Just sayin'...


"Let him who is without bias cast the first stone"

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Sep 7 2021 03:13pm)
Maybe this is a function of my own implicit biases. As a foreigner, my percpetion will almost automatically get shaped disproportionately by channels like CNN (only US channel airing on free tv in Germany afaik), by high-quality newspapers of record like the NY Times or the WaPo, and by similarly elite publications like The Atlantic or NY magazine.

All in all, I still think that national media does on aggregate have a distinct liberal slant. But you and thor are probably right that I'm vastly underestimating how big and influential local news and talk radio are since these are types of media I engage with significantly less than someone actually living in the States.


they're right.

even on a simplistic view in 2020 overall CNN+MSNBC = 1.09 x the total viewers of Fox News. so 2 networks with a clear liberal bias are almost exactly the same as the 1 with a clear conservative bias.

and many conservatives are into talk radio, liberals more into online news sources, etc.

overall it's very balanced, and an age old false narrative rooted in the fact that fox is the lone GOP network, even though it equals the others more or less in viewers. its a ufc fighter beating up a class of toddlers, while vilifying the toddlers.

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You, too, sponge up (left wing) talking points far more than you want to admit. Just sayin'...


"Let him who is without bias cast the first stone"


i can throw a rock pretty hard.

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You, too, sponge up (left wing) talking points far more than you want to admit. Just sayin'...

"Let him who is without bias cast the first stone"


Nobody's free from bias, but as with most things, it's not even close in degree.
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You also sponge up right wing talking points without looking any deeper until you're pressed about a dozen times, so there's that too.


I see that you are on the Cancerous Left. This explains a lot of your posts.

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Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 7 2021 03:27pm)
I see that you are on the Cancerous Left. This explains a lot of your posts.


I see that you're obsessed with me. This explains a lot of your posts.
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Nobody's free from bias, but as with most things, it's not even close in degree.


Maybe you should think about what he said to see if he's right, instead of just retorting in a knee-jerk fashion. Do you yourself sponge up a lot of lefty talking points? Only you can answer this...
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Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 7 2021 03:29pm)
Maybe you should think about what he said to see if he's right, instead of just retorting in a knee-jerk fashion. Do you yourself sponge up a lot of lefty talking points? Only you can answer this...


A good girl has the courtesy to at least wipe her mouth before going in for round 2.
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A good girl has the courtesy to at least wipe her mouth before going in for round 2.


EL OH EL. I can't believe how offended you got.
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