Higher education is much the same. We could easily pay for that without a meaningful increase in national debt, and it would give greater access to filling vocational roles. We routinely increase military spending by as much as it would cost to pay for national higher education and I only ever hear about it from the liberals I follow.

You want a future where your kids have a choice on which healthcare plan, and then no choice on which doctor they go to because they're stuck on a small network.

All the while they're paying more for the privilege of having their choice of physician restricted.

And where they have less choice in career because their career of choice doesn't have good benefits and they will literally die from not being able to afford insulin.

It's really sad to see you buying into such a simplistic "Muh freedumbz" narrative in 2021. If this was 2006 I'd say you are just a regular gullible conservative, but not even gullible conservatives are still using your talking points.

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the r&d loophole is a simple line in corporate tax filing. doing away with it over time and clamping down on it's uses doesn't allow corporations to offshore those expenses.

there's a damn good reason im for what im for, and that reason is pragmatism. im not for demonizing and attacking billionaires who will just offshore money or corporations who will outsource rather than pay a premium to operate in america. nor am i for tax policy so drastic that it will be eliminated by the swinging pendulum of power.

the issue is people here UBI and they go instantly to communism, socialism, and apply zero nuance. nuance is what i have for breakfast.

The year is 2045. Void's daughter has chosen to be a welder, off her father's advice to not go into debt and get paid to go into trades.

snipa's company has just revealed a new automated welding system, with AI power it can weld better and faster and at all times of day.

Void's daughter is laid off and can't find a job, because thousands of other welders were laid off these past 6 months.

Her son's insulin is $3000 a month now, and since she can't afford it they are saddled with massive hospital bills.

As his grandson dies, void puts his arm around his daughter and whispers. "God damn I love that we had the choice to let him die"

Getting more of your earned money is economic freedom which leads to actual freedom. If I become a savvy enough investor where I can live off stock market gains then it gives me the freedom to spend time with my family, to get sleep, to eat.

The government coming and saying we'll take a bigger piece of that pie will result in less of those freedoms being available to me, quite simple really.

I don't care what people currently believe lol, I'm perfectly fine being a minority in what I believe in.




that's not what I'm talking about. Those are two separate things.

Corporations evade taxes by not bringing their money back to the US from international markets. I.e. Microsoft makes money in Europe. Instead of repatriating that money and paying US taxes as a US corporate, they can just let that money sit in subsidiaries in low-tax places like Irelands, Switzerland, Cyprus, etc. Higher US corporate taxes will only exasperate that.

R&D on the other hand will suffer for this reason. Think about two comparative companies. One pays 40% taxes in the US, the other is an east Asian company that pays half. Holding everything constant the east Asian company will end up with higher net income and reward their shareholders with higher dividends or stock growth. This will eventually cause more investors to buy that company over the US counterpart. Because of this, the US company will have to lower costs where they can to try to hold those investors. R&D is one area where some of these cuts will happen first.

Corporations are actually the number one area of growth and technological progress. Taxing them may be appealing in the short term but it's one of the worst ways to stifle future national innovation. If we do this, you might as well crown China as the global superpower today because it will be reality within a generation or two.

In other words, "I'm getting mine, screw everybody else".

Damn, snipa had you pegged lol. You're just incredibly self-centered.

The reason you're going to be a minority in what you believe in is because most people can see beyond their immediate circumstances, and see a benefit that comes from society-wide investment.

national innovation from corporations will put people out of work faster, and we'll be in Wall-E faster. stifle away, and in the mean time build a bank to solve future problems.

you guys just dont get it, you dont see a future where jobs are held by a small minority as an eventuality. you're not ready, and you kin wont be either. you want them to have the freedom to hold whatever job they want, a freedom that is as moot as the dodo bird.

its all going to burn, u can control if the burns are 1st or 3rd degree, but the fire is happening. pretending otherwise is bad, advocating gas on fires is worse.

Automation trends do not invalidate economic comparisons today.

When our proposed corporate tax rates are higher than the biggest communist country in the world you know there’s something that’s a miss.

China isn’t dumb enough to cannibalize their future growth through UBI or massive taxes, even though as a communist country you’d expect them to. That should be telling.

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You're really hung up on buzz words lol

China is communist, therefore they would want to do UBI. That's a pretty crap argument that is dependent on not really understanding things. Like, even understanding the basic meanings of words.