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Nov 9 2023 12:10pm
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Nov 9 2023 06:27pm)
Not because she's my Grandma but because she has the "fear of God" in her so she'll always "in most cases" do the "right" thing.


The minds of religious people are so limited and simple, its incredible.

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The minds of religious people are so limited and simple, its incredible.


If all they project is unconditional love they avoid the pride that makes someone who claims their mind is superior through intellect look like a total fool.
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Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 9 2023 10:10am)
The minds of religious people are so limited and simple, its incredible.


This is prideful arrogance, understood as the capital sin. It's the capital sin because it brings you the furthest from God more so than any others.
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Modulok2405,Nov 9 2023 05:24am]Reliable once again...its reliable in such stranges way man, come on...dont you see that?

Its never reliable when it comes to the things that would mean real proof.

show its false then

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Where is proof that Jesus walked on water, turned water into wine or resurrected once he died? Where is proof for anything that is actually worth anything for the general public?

fiuke eh dude........ i walked through the park yesterday and there was a bunch of leaves on the ground but i cant "prove" it

progression of science now talks of "simulation hypothesis" aint that a bich? now anything is possible unless u want to refute "science"..... but atheists are good at making up their own reality.

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Snakes were talking, People were swallowed by whales, a dude built an arc that inhabited two of EVERY animal. Where is proof for the ridiculous part of the story

simulation hypothesis.............

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You come here and tell me its reliable once again because it said that only few will believe it actually. You cant be serious, this is so cringe, honestly...


Another guy told me a few days ago the bible predicted 1500 prophecies correctly. 1500 prophecies(!!). I asked him to name only one of those and boom, he went silent.
cringe is all you got? why not just show its not reliable wouldnt that make more sense? many have tried, hel some of those people became christian

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You guys prove the bible for yourself in your mind with the most ridiculous "facts" you could possibly come up with.

making up chit is the atheist specialty. i did a whole series on it remember
1. haeckels embroyo drawings
2. piltdown man
3. nebraska man
4. whale evolution
5. junk DNA
6. J Harlen Bretz and what the instution od science can do if one steps outa line
7. Australopithecus afarensis aka lucy

Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 9 2023 06:58am)
I know that dude, you brought that up quite a few times in the past. You say the snake might have been a dude. I understand...thats of course irrefutable proof. Thanks.


show how weak your snake argument is. and you keep using it which shows how weak your over all arguments must be



[QUOTE Modulok2405,Nov 9 2023 07:16am]When my wife tells me dinner is ready, I take it on faith because I have experienced that minor event hundreds of times before and have no reason to doubt it.

When a book tells me that this is how the world has been created and that there is someone who made it all and controls it all that this guy is all powerful and that I have to believe this cause he invites me to his eternal kingdom if I do so, then I need a little more than "take it on faith". Especially when 5000 other religions claim the same thing about some other dude or multiple dudes and they all say: Take it on faith.[/QUOTE]

admission your a faith based believer. remember though faith is just another word for trust



Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 9 2023 08:30am)
A lot of people actually take the bible literally. You would be surprised how many actually. A lot of people in this thread even...


science and "simulation hypothesis" makes a better argument for that then anyone else could? arnt you a scientific person?[/QUOTE]

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Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 9 2023 05:37pm)
Your claim: God exists

Your proof: Non existent


The issue is that if I start bombarding you with all of my proofs then you will say "TLDR" while trying to ask for proof. I could give you my Testimony but that won't do you any good.

I personally have gone out and tested the word of God to see if it is really true. What does it mean when Paul says "When I am weak, then I am strong"? 2 Corinthians 12:10. What an outrageous claim yet when digging deeper that claim has turned out to be true and dependable in my daily life.

I do have many other examples yet the same conclusion of Scripture being trustworthy has come about every single time. I even still test Scripture to this day by going to Bible study every week. I've yet to find a flaw in the word of God. If there is something that seems iffy then all it takes is to either read the passage in its entirety or to dig deeper and find the connection to one of the Prophets.
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The issue is that if I start bombarding you with all of my proofs then you will say "TLDR" while trying to ask for proof. I could give you my Testimony but that won't do you any good.

I personally have gone out and tested the word of God to see if it is really true. What does it mean when Paul says "When I am weak, then I am strong"? 2 Corinthians 12:10. What an outrageous claim yet when digging deeper that claim has turned out to be true and dependable in my daily life.

I do have many other examples yet the same conclusion of Scripture being trustworthy has come about every single time. I even still test Scripture to this day by going to Bible study every week. I've yet to find a flaw in the word of God. If there is something that seems iffy then all it takes is to either read the passage in its entirety or to dig deeper and find the connection to one of the Prophets.


Even if you interpret every single thing written in the bible as true, great and awesome, we still do not get any closer to answering the question if god is a real entity.
Proof does not mean proof that all those semi-wise phrases in the bible can be interpreted in a helpful way, proof means evidence for god's existence.
God could also exist if the bible was completely false, so try to forget about it, it doesnt help.
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Nov 11 2023 01:34am
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Nov 9 2023 07:27pm)
If all they project is unconditional love they avoid the pride that makes someone who claims their mind is superior through intellect look like a total fool.


You said your grandma follows god out of fear. Obedience out of fear is dishonest and worthless.
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This is prideful arrogance, understood as the capital sin. It's the capital sin because it brings you the furthest from God more so than any others.


I love commiting capital sins, yeah. You have a problem with it?
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Quote (TiStuff @ Nov 9 2023 08:50pm)
some stuff



Show me pink flying elephants dont exist and then I show you god doesnt exist and the bible is false, okay?

Trust usually has a reason. When I trust my wife I do so out of experience.

Faith in the context of religion doesnt mean trust. It means stupidity. Blind following. Wishful thinking.

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Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 11 2023 05:32pm)
Even if you interpret every single thing written in the bible as true, great and awesome, we still do not get any closer to answering the question if god is a real entity.
Proof does not mean proof that all those semi-wise phrases in the bible can be interpreted in a helpful way, proof means evidence for god's existence.
God could also exist if the bible was completely false, so try to forget about it, it doesnt help.


Did you just say blind following? Let's compare that to what the Bible says.

Let's examine 1 Thessalonians 5:21:

21 but test them all; hold on to what is good,

This is very obviously a snippet but let's examine what Paul means when he says to 'test them all'.

"As Paul concludes his first letter to the Thessalonians, he offers some varied ethical instructions including that his readers should test everything (1 Thessalonians 5:21) and hold to what is good. While this certainly stands on its own as an important principle, it seems that Paul had something more particular in mind, as those words immediately follow his instruction not to despise prophetic utterances (1 Thessalonians 5:20). John adds some helpful information as he likewise encourages his readers not to believe every spirit but to test them to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets had gone out into the world (1 John 4:1).

Paul writes to the Thessalonians around AD 51, and at that time God was using the gift of prophecy to communicate His Word until His revelation would be completed by the apostles. In 1 Corinthians 13:10, Paul indicates that there would be a conclusion to these revelatory gifts, as, when the complete comes (to telion), the partial would be done away. Peter adds that God moved particular men and they spoke from God (2 Peter 1:20–21). While not all agree that 1 Corinthians 13:10 is referring to the completion of God’s revealed Word to humanity, many would agree that at least Paul is referring to a time when God would no longer use special giftings to communicate His Word. When Paul writes in the mid-first century, and John after him a couple of decades later, it is evident that those revelatory gifts are still in play, as both Paul and John caution their readers to test everything (1 Thessalonians 5:21). Particularly, believers were to test prophecies and spirits of prophecy (1 John 4:1) to see whether the message and the messenger were indeed from God. The first century required a unique kind of discernment, because God’s revealed Word (the Bible) was not completed until nearly the end of the first century, when John penned the book of Revelation between AD 85 and 95.

Even though believers now can read the Bible and have confidence that they are reading God’s completed Word, there is still need for discernment, and Paul’s instruction to test everything (1 Thessalonians 5:21) is still pertinent today. There are still many alleged applications of Scripture that need to be examined and tested to see if they arise from the Author’s intended meaning or if they are contrivances of those who are not handling the Bible well. There are also many who claim to speak for God today. One must test these claims in light of the Scriptures.

Paul and John gave significant attention to guarding and protecting believers from false teaching, as they knew of the existence of influential counterfeits and false teachers. Paul warns Timothy to be on guard against falsehood (1 Timothy 6:20; 2 Timothy 4:15). John warns his readers to be on guard against idols (1 John 5:21). Peter adds that believers should be on guard so they are not carried away by error (2 Peter 3:17). Testing everything and holding fast to what is good (1 Thessalonians 5:21) remains an important discipline for every believer, in all eras."

Reference:

https://www.gotquestions.org/test-everything.html

So tell me again how we are blindly following the scriptures?
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