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Dec 8 2021 09:09am
Quote (Santara @ Dec 8 2021 08:46am)
Today, I learned that condoning the killing of your fellow human beings is "not a shitty take."


Im sure given sufficient resources and funding fender would come up with a more ingenious way to abort the fetus draining the amniotic sac, cutting the umbilical cord and injecting cyanide gas into the uterus
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Dec 8 2021 09:11am
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Do the rights of the unborn outweigh the rights of the born?


I aint ever seen an unborn child leave a shopping cart in a parking spot.
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Dec 8 2021 09:14am
Quote (Santara @ Dec 8 2021 10:02am)
Killing the unborn is the greater evil.

/e

i.e. the permanent revocation of all of one party's rights is more egregious than the temporary restriction of some of the other party's rights.


What about

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In a free society the state does not administer the affairs of men. It administers justice among men who conduct their own affairs. ~Walter Lippmann, 1889 - 1974


?

Do you hold the same view when it comes to mandatory military service or forced blood/plasma donations? How about taxes?
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Dec 8 2021 09:15am
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Im sure given sufficient resources and funding fender would come up with a more ingenious way to abort the fetus draining the amniotic sac, cutting the umbilical cord and injecting cyanide gas into the uterus


showing your true face now, huh? pathetic.
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Dec 8 2021 09:20am
If a father rapes his 12 year old daughter and gets her pregnant in the state of Texas, it's still illegal for her to have an abortion. Only because of Republicans.

Read more-
https://khn.org/news/article/texas-abortion-law-rape-incest-survivors/

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Dec 8 2021 09:26am
Why is as soon as abortion is in discussion, all the pro-abortionists come up with these weird random scenarios that apply to .0001% of the population?
Dig through this thread. There are a lot of them.
A lot.

edit: Marvel could do an entire what if series from just this thread.

This post was edited by sirthom on Dec 8 2021 09:28am
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Dec 8 2021 09:36am
Quote (fender @ Dec 8 2021 10:15am)
showing your true face now, huh? pathetic.


Funny coming from a coward who has to foam at the mouth about womens rights because it makes for better PR than acknowledging that abortion is about killing humans
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Dec 8 2021 09:37am
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Dec 7 2021 05:04pm)
Human life is not inherently valuable. People are inherently valuable, which an early fetus isn't.


wrong, organs are valuable af.
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Dec 8 2021 09:40am
Quote (fender @ Dec 8 2021 09:34am)
a whole lot of preventable suffering and death will come from overturning it, and i'm pretty sure that even someone as delusional as you knows that. also, the constitution is a secular document, and no society grants the "freedom" to do harm - you're slowly but surely arriving at the toddler / libertarian stage of "arguments"...

the only "great american tradition" that overturning roe will continue is shaping the law to establish second class citizens.

fundamentalist nut jobs...


I'm not sure why this is hard for you to understand... people like myself consider unborn human beings as having moral worth, so we consider every abortion to be an unjust killing(and preventable death). So the number of women who die because of unsafe abortions will not even come close to the number of unborn human beings saved by pro-life laws.

Yeah, women dealing with a pregnancy they don't want will result in them suffering. But at least they won't have the deep scar on their psyche(and soul) that comes with intentionally killing your unborn child. Sometimes you have to get tough with people to encourage them to do the right thing, because you know it's good for them.
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Dec 8 2021 09:43am
Quote (SBD @ Dec 8 2021 09:55am)
Praise be that Canada is so progressively ahead of American. I think we're sub 1/5 of the population that wants any further restrictions around abortion. American progressiveness has typically always lagged behind other developed countries but they eventually follow the footsteps, I don't see this being any different. All the issues are a huge stink until they're not, then the vocal group objecting suddenly becomes 40%, 30%, 20%, and eventually fade to nothing.


the foreign perspective on american abortion stances is rather skewed. when u get in to the meat and taters of the issue almost ALL pro lifers allow for exceptions for rape, incest, and medical danger to the mother and or child. and in the end most want late term abortions eliminated or for people to be forced to be informed on what the process mechanically does.

while i dont think that a woman who has been raped by her father should have to watch a 20 minute video of a baby being aborted i do think there's a contrast between what the world media reports the average pro lifer is in support of and what they actually want. which is a spectrum of more moderate stances than the people who form picket lines outside of planned parenthoods.
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