...seriously , you don't know ?

...Jesus was without sin , blameless , never once offending God , the only life not in need of His own blood sacrifice in order to be in the presence of God .





Hebrews 4:15

New International Version (NIV)

15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin.

This post was edited by WidowMaKer_MK on Apr 29 2013 06:39am

If that is the case then we are still under slave from our sin. We are still slaves to death. We still have a huge debt to pay and none of us can pay it.
Where shall we turn to for our salvation?



If you know the answer that I'm going to give, perhaps you should investigate the life that Jesus lived and you'll see what a perfect life is.
If there was nobody who ever lived a perfect life, how else would we know what a perfect life is like?

and there we are again, typical 'CPK001' circular reasoning - as if i wouldn't have known

You'll have to clarify what you're talking about, because now you've just lost me. What conclusion have I come to that you believe is incorrect?

You said that if we add up all the Christians from the past they'd be able to convince the 5 billion living non-Christians, and for some reason disregarded all of the non-Christians from the past. And I (correctly) stated that I don't have to even back up anything I've said, because we already live in a world where the Christians of the past have not been able to convince the non-Christians of the present.

Do you believe in Truth? Do you believe in perfection?

Jesus = model and guide for humanity.
Jesus reached perfection in the same way that we will achieve one day through successive reincarnations.
believe that Jesus was created perfect, is it compares the mythological deity of ancient Greece.

Are you still going on with reincarnation?

Do you believe Jesus was once a impure being in his so called "previous" life?

do i believe in you going off on a tangent? yes

It's not off tangent. You said there was never any man who lived a perfect life. But do you even grasp such a notion to assert such philosophy?

it is a matter of justice and coherence.
we were all created simple and ignorant, we evolved with our free will.

believe that there are angelic beings that were created already perfect features privileges.
God is infinitely just, never do distinction of their creations.
this is logical reasoning, rational thought outside that exists only dogmas.

Jesus has evolved to the point that today it is the governor of our planet.
the same way that there are other worlds spirits of the magnitude of Jesus.

He stated:
Matthew 5:48
Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

how can we achieve the moral and intellectual perfection in a single existence?