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Aug 30 2021 12:32pm
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yes, however the fact that parler got shut down shows the weakness for your argument

without some serious money you cant use your own server capacities from the get getgo and then you are in the clutches of big tech again as parler has shown

you talk about a free market that does not exist anymore


Parler didn't get shut down though. It still exists.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 30 2021 01:13pm)
Oh come on, this is ridiculous. Amazon deplatformed Parler in the exact moment the site could have taken off after Trump's twitter ban, with lots of his millions of supporters incensed and looking for alternatives to twitter. It is not believable in the slightest that the concerns or complaints about bad content on Parler reached the boiling point and left AWS no other choice in this exact moment.

It was a clear-cut case of the Big Tech companies colluding and abusing their monopolistic position on their market to nip the formation of a potential rival as well as a home for their ideological enemies in the bud. Anyone who doesn't see this is willfully ignorant. Time for some trust-busting imho.


Parler was shut down for blatant violations of their contract, including the inability to moderate. That's free market. Don't like it? Tough. This is the world Republicans fought for. Parler didn't like it, and they switched server providers. That's free market.

This idea that big tech colluding isn't free market when the company they "shut down" still exists is a losing one on every level.

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Parler didn't get shut down though. It still exists.
Parler was shut down for blatant violations of their contract, including the inability to moderate. That's free market. Don't like it? Tough. This is the world Republicans fought for. Parler didn't like it, and they switched server providers. That's free market.


And these "blatant violations" miraculously happened to reach the AWS review board (or whatever institutions they use to litigate these kinds of cases) in the exact moment when Twitter banned the incumbent president of the United States and his outraged supporters were looking for alternatives?

I know you're just trolling and holding the ricidulous free market fundamentalism espoused by the GOP in the past against them, but it's beyond obvious that this is a case of dysfunctional markets rather than healthy competition.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 30 2021 01:13pm)
Oh come on, this is ridiculous. Amazon deplatformed Parler in the exact moment the site could have taken off after Trump's twitter ban, with lots of his millions of supporters incensed and looking for alternatives to twitter. It is not believable in the slightest that the concerns or complaints about bad content on Parler reached the boiling point and left AWS no other choice in this exact moment.

It was a clear-cut case of the Big Tech companies colluding and abusing their monopolistic position on their market to nip the formation of a potential rival as well as a home for their ideological enemies in the bud. Anyone who doesn't see this is willfully ignorant. Time for some trust-busting imho.


ok, so lets say angry people wasn't the cause. how is this bolded no the EXACT free market that America has come to know?

amazon is forced to host parler because if they dont then its not a free market? lol.

i find it funny that right wingers reference "free market" all of the time, in it's ideals and paper definition, but ignore reality. while also doing the opposite with communism, only focusing on examples and not the definition. both forces in reality are subject to corruption, that's the world we live in. the paper definition of free markets dont exist, never will exist, and are moot.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 30 2021 02:51pm)
ok, so lets say angry people wasn't the cause. how is this bolded no the EXACT free market that America has come to know?

amazon is forced to host parler because if they dont then its not a free market? lol.

i find it funny that right wingers reference "free market" all of the time, in it's ideals and paper definition, but ignore reality. while also doing the opposite with communism, only focusing on examples and not the definition. both forces in reality are subject to corruption, that's the world we live in. the paper definition of free markets dont exist, never will exist, and are moot.


The FBI would arrest the board of Amazon for defrauding its investors.

You have a primitive understanding of morality.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 30 2021 01:39pm)
And these "blatant violations" miraculously happened to reach the AWS review board (or whatever institutions they use to litigate these kinds of cases) in the exact moment when Twitter banned the incumbent president of the United States and his outraged supporters were looking for alternatives?

I know you're just trolling and holding the ricidulous free market fundamentalism espoused by the GOP in the past against them, but it's beyond obvious that this is a case of dysfunctional markets rather than healthy competition.


I'm not trolling at all. I'm pointing out that this is the logical conclusion of Republican policy.

I personally believe we should have regulated and broken up this and most other sectors of the economy decades ago now, but pointing out the logical conclusion of Republican policy isn't trolling.



Also, AWS can shut down anybody for violation of contract at any time at their own discretion. Nowhere in the contract does it obligate them to enforce it. They could actively collude with every other organization and wait until Parler broke every organization's contract and shut them down simultaneously and that wouldn't matter in the slightest as long as Parler broke the terms of service, which they absolutely did.

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Parler didn't get shut down though. It still exists.



Parler was shut down for blatant violations of their contract, including the inability to moderate. That's free market. Don't like it? Tough. This is the world Republicans fought for. Parler didn't like it, and they switched server providers. That's free market.

This idea that big tech colluding isn't free market when the company they "shut down" still exists is a losing one on every level.


There are internal memo's reporting that the reasons were political. Don't you think lefties and righties would agree that monopolistic behavior is bad here.
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There are internal memo's reporting that the reasons were political. Don't you think lefties and righties would agree that monopolistic behavior is bad here.


Doesn't matter if it's political if they were breaking TOS.

Lefties do have a problem with monopolistic behavior. Conservatives only care about it when it hurts their candidate.
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