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Nov 9 2023 07:16am
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 9 2023 04:52am)
So let me trabslate this:

You think because the bible "predicted" that only few will believe it (those few are still far more then all the worlds population when it was written btw), its true?

So if I write a story and predict that only a few people will buy it, that makes it true?


it simply shows scripture being reliable once again. it would be a single article but the accumulation.......... c'mon mannn
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Nov 9 2023 07:24am
Quote (TiStuff @ Nov 9 2023 02:16pm)
it simply shows scripture being reliable once again. it would be a single article but the accumulation.......... c'mon mannn


Reliable once again...its reliable in such stranges way man, come on...dont you see that?

Its never reliable when it comes to the things that would mean real proof.

Where is proof that Jesus walked on water, turned water into wine or resurrected once he died? Where is proof for anything that is actually worth anything for the general public?

Snakes were talking, People were swallowed by whales, a dude built an arc that inhabited two of EVERY animal. Where is proof for the ridiculous part of the story?

You come here and tell me its reliable once again because it said that only few will believe it actually. You cant be serious, this is so cringe, honestly...

Another guy told me a few days ago the bible predicted 1500 prophecies correctly. 1500 prophecies(!!). I asked him to name only one of those and boom, he went silent.

You guys prove the bible for yourself in your mind with the most ridiculous "facts" you could possibly come up with.

This post was edited by Modulok2405 on Nov 9 2023 07:26am
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Nov 9 2023 07:49am
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 9 2023 05:24am)
Reliable once again...its reliable in such stranges way man, come on...dont you see that?

Its never reliable when it comes to the things that would mean real proof.

Where is proof that Jesus walked on water, turned water into wine or resurrected once he died? Where is proof for anything that is actually worth anything for the general public?

Snakes were talking, People were swallowed by whales, a dude built an arc that inhabited two of EVERY animal. Where is proof for the ridiculous part of the story?

You come here and tell me its reliable once again because it said that only few will believe it actually. You cant be serious, this is so cringe, honestly...

Another guy told me a few days ago the bible predicted 1500 prophecies correctly. 1500 prophecies(!!). I asked him to name only one of those and boom, he went silent.

You guys prove the bible for yourself in your mind with the most ridiculous "facts" you could possibly come up with.


snake
/snāk/
noun
noun: snake; plural noun: snakes; noun: snake in the grass; plural noun: snakes in the grass; noun: the snake; noun: plumber's snake; plural noun: plumber's snakes

2.
a treacherous or deceitful person.
"that man is a cold-blooded snake"
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Nov 9 2023 08:29am
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 9 2023 07:24am)
Reliable once again...its reliable in such stranges way man, come on...dont you see that?

Its never reliable when it comes to the things that would mean real proof.

Where is proof that Jesus walked on water, turned water into wine or resurrected once he died? Where is proof for anything that is actually worth anything for the general public?

Snakes were talking, People were swallowed by whales, a dude built an arc that inhabited two of EVERY animal. Where is proof for the ridiculous part of the story?

You come here and tell me its reliable once again because it said that only few will believe it actually. You cant be serious, this is so cringe, honestly...

Another guy told me a few days ago the bible predicted 1500 prophecies correctly. 1500 prophecies(!!). I asked him to name only one of those and boom, he went silent.

You guys prove the bible for yourself in your mind with the most ridiculous "facts" you could possibly come up with.


take it on faith

if you love your God your Creator, then take it on faith

prepare for us Christian to take the message of faith to the general public... and we will...... we............ will......................... assuredly we will do those things that we were inscripted to do
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Nov 9 2023 08:58am
Quote (TiStuff @ Nov 9 2023 02:49pm)
snake
/snāk/
noun
noun: snake; plural noun: snakes; noun: snake in the grass; plural noun: snakes in the grass; noun: the snake; noun: plumber's snake; plural noun: plumber's snakes

2.
a treacherous or deceitful person.
"that man is a cold-blooded snake"


I know that dude, you brought that up quite a few times in the past. You say the snake might have been a dude. I understand...thats of course irrefutable proof. Thanks.

This post was edited by Modulok2405 on Nov 9 2023 08:58am
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take it on faith

if you love your God your Creator, then take it on faith

prepare for us Christian to take the message of faith to the general public... and we will...... we............ will......................... assuredly we will do those things that we were inscripted to do


When my wife tells me dinner is ready, I take it on faith because I have experienced that minor event hundreds of times before and have no reason to doubt it.

When a book tells me that this is how the world has been created and that there is someone who made it all and controls it all that this guy is all powerful and that I have to believe this cause he invites me to his eternal kingdom if I do so, then I need a little more than "take it on faith". Especially when 5000 other religions claim the same thing about some other dude or multiple dudes and they all say: Take it on faith.
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Nov 9 2023 10:21am
Quote (Modulok2405 @ 9 Nov 2023 09:16)
When my wife tells me dinner is ready, I take it on faith because I have experienced that minor event hundreds of times before and have no reason to doubt it.

When a book tells me that this is how the world has been created and that there is someone who made it all and controls it all that this guy is all powerful and that I have to believe this cause he invites me to his eternal kingdom if I do so, then I need a little more than "take it on faith". Especially when 5000 other religions claim the same thing about some other dude or multiple dudes and they all say: Take it on faith.


What you quoted from biblical scripture about "Noah's Ark" / "Walking on water" / "Water into wine" etc. by most people are not taken word for word as absolutes but read between the lines and see that most of it is metaphorical. That's why a lot of believers in Jesus Christ only follow what HE himself "supposedly" said. The bible was written a LONG time ago by the literate people of that time. Therefore hundreds of "interpretations" took hold because it was easy to manipulate it to control the masses. This is very true today. There are billions of followers of Jesus Christ but do they all truly know "Christ". No.

Would you rather have it the Hindu way which is the polar opposite? I studied both the Catholic interpretation of God and the Hindu interpretation of God.

This quote is from the Bhagavad Gita when Arjuna(a great warrior of that time) is told you MUST fight this war. It is your duty. You are a great warrior. When he sees the faces of his enemies and some are his own kin he falls to his knees and cries out, "I cannot fight". He saw no good that would come from the war. He was afraid of death and was no longer sure if fighting was the right thing to do.

He turns to his childhood friend and charioteer Krishna who is actually an incarnation of the god Vishnu.

Krishna then invokes the concept of "dharma" "sacred duty" which sustains the cosmic order and explains the "illusion" of death.

He goes on to say, You are the Supreme Brahman(vast/unlimited), the ultimate, the supreme abode and purifier, the Absolute Truth and the eternal divine person. You are the primal God, transcendental and original, and You are the unborn and all-pervading beauty. All the great sages such as Närada, Asita, Devala, and Vyäsa proclaim this of You, and now You Yourself are declaring it to me.

In Eastern "faith" it all falls on you and you alone are responsible for your karmic debt. You alone are on the spiritual path. You are your own teacher. You are the God you seek/sought.

As someone who puts his faith in Jesus Christ I see it even more clearly now. Jesus said what people in the East said for a thousand years before his time. "I am God". He just said it in a place and time where that would immediately incur death or wrath from authorities.

In Vedanta which is the philosophy I practice Jesus Christ is a "realized being" and the "greatest spiritual teacher" Someone who in one incarnation realized ALL truths and was able to turn HIMSELF into the MEDIUM in which so many gain a relationship with God. Through him. With him. To this very day. Every day someone realizes God through the teachings of Jesus Christ. That person doesn't gain magic powers they gain an eternal bond with a being that provides them with uncondtional love, peace of mind, bliss, virtue, the list goes on and on.

Swami Vivekananda observed, “In the West, if a man doesn't believe in a God outside himself, he is considered an atheist, whereas Vedanta says that a man who doesn't believe in himself is the atheist.”
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What you quoted from biblical scripture about "Noah's Ark" / "Walking on water" / "Water into wine" etc. by most people are not taken word for word as absolutes but read between the lines and see that most of it is metaphorical. That's why a lot of believers in Jesus Christ only follow what HE himself "supposedly" said. The bible was written a LONG time ago by the literate people of that time. Therefore hundreds of "interpretations" took hold because it was easy to manipulate it to control the masses. This is very true today. There are billions of followers of Jesus Christ but do they all truly know "Christ". No.

Would you rather have it the Hindu way which is the polar opposite? I studied both the Catholic interpretation of God and the Hindu interpretation of God.

This quote is from the Bhagavad Gita when Arjuna(a great warrior of that time) is told you MUST fight this war. It is your duty. You are a great warrior. When he sees the faces of his enemies and some are his own kin he falls to his knees and cries out, "I cannot fight". He saw no good that would come from the war. He was afraid of death and was no longer sure if fighting was the right thing to do.

He turns to his childhood friend and charioteer Krishna who is actually an incarnation of the god Vishnu.

Krishna then invokes the concept of "dharma" "sacred duty" which sustains the cosmic order and explains the "illusion" of death.

He goes on to say, You are the Supreme Brahman(vast/unlimited), the ultimate, the supreme abode and purifier, the Absolute Truth and the eternal divine person. You are the primal God, transcendental and original, and You are the unborn and all-pervading beauty. All the great sages such as Närada, Asita, Devala, and Vyäsa proclaim this of You, and now You Yourself are declaring it to me.

In Eastern "faith" it all falls on you and you alone are responsible for your karmic debt. You alone are on the spiritual path. You are your own teacher. You are the God you seek/sought.

As someone who puts his faith in Jesus Christ I see it even more clearly now. Jesus said what people in the East said for a thousand years before his time. "I am God". He just said it in a place and time where that would immediately incur death or wrath from authorities.

In Vedanta which is the philosophy I practice Jesus Christ is a "realized being" and the "greatest spiritual teacher" Someone who in one incarnation realized ALL truths and was able to turn HIMSELF into the MEDIUM in which so many gain a relationship with God. Through him. With him. To this very day. Every day someone realizes God through the teachings of Jesus Christ. That person doesn't gain magic powers they gain an eternal bond with a being that provides them with uncondtional love, peace of mind, bliss, virtue, the list goes on and on.

Swami Vivekananda observed, “In the West, if a man doesn't believe in a God outside himself, he is considered an atheist, whereas Vedanta says that a man who doesn't believe in himself is the atheist.”


A lot of people actually take the bible literally. You would be surprised how many actually. A lot of people in this thread even...
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Nov 9 2023 11:03am
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 9 2023 09:16am)
When my wife tells me dinner is ready, I take it on faith because I have experienced that minor event hundreds of times before and have no reason to doubt it.

When a book tells me that this is how the world has been created and that there is someone who made it all and controls it all that this guy is all powerful and that I have to believe this cause he invites me to his eternal kingdom if I do so, then I need a little more than "take it on faith". Especially when 5000 other religions claim the same thing about some other dude or multiple dudes and they all say: Take it on faith.


make your choice then......


make my day............



go find these other 5000 religions so you are all gathered to stick your head between ur legs and kiss your asses goodbye when its time for my God to judge all 5001
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Quote (Modulok2405 @ 9 Nov 2023 10:30)
A lot of people actually take the bible literally. You would be surprised how many actually. A lot of people in this thread even...


That's ok though I'm not one to judge them.

My Grandma takes the Bible word for word and she's the most loving being I've met. Not because she's my Grandma but because she has the "fear of God" in her so she'll always "in most cases" do the "right" thing.

When she found out I was studying Eastern culture/religion/philosophy she thought I was worshipping the devil or that I had denounced my faith in Christ. The opposite was true I was strengthening my bond with Christ by learning how other cultures viewed him and how they too appreciated his teachings. I would go as far to say that Hindus revere Christ more then most Christians/Catholics I know.

Everyone is on their own path. As I quoted Vivekananda himself saying that as long as you believe in yourself you too believe in God just "God" in a different form. Some of the smartest people I've met are Atheist. Respectable doctors, professors, engineers they just practice a different form of "yoga" namely Jnana yoga which is the way of the "intellectual/scientific" approach. They realize God too just like I said in a different way.

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