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Nov 5 2023 05:38pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Nov 6 2023 01:28am)
usa never existed, only 300 years old country == fake country: how would you feel ?

https://i.imgur.com/yiP1oHh.jpg


The same way he feels now, since USA (& Europe) is already suffering a Left-wing-approved invasion by hamas supporting shithole dwellers - making things like theese possible en-masse

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Nov 5 2023 05:39pm
Quote (fender @ 6 Nov 2023 01:22)
historical illiterate. the '48 war happened BECAUSE of your ethnic cleansing of arabs. that came FIRST. that's literally what started it all.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_and_massacres_in_Mandatory_Palestine

https://www.heyalma.com/israel-guide/history-of-israel-palestine-before-1948/

Here is a list of all the killings during the mandate
Arabs started killing us way before we had any way to defend us

Have a nice read

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Nov 5 2023 05:41pm
Quote (Many_Names @ Nov 5 2023 03:07pm)
250k
How many jews were displaced?


How could you say that hundreds of thousands of people were displaced by the Zionist project of establishing Israel, while also saying that Israel "took nothing from them"?
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Nov 5 2023 05:41pm
Quote (Many_Names @ 6 Nov 2023 00:26)
Wait what????????

I hope everyone is reading this


i hope YOU are reading it and doing some research, because apparently it's not being taught in israeli schools (hardly surprising). yes, your country was founded by ethnic cleansing, by literally destroying hundreds of palestinian villages. yes, "palestinian". the region was called "palestine" under the british mandate.

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"Legislation

In 2009 the Israeli government banned references to the Nakba in school textbooks and required the removal of existing textbooks that mentioned it.[14][15] Israel enacted the Nakba Law in 2011 which restricted public funding to entities that disputed Israel's foundational story.[14] While the original bill proposed to criminalize individuals who disputed the state's reading of history, the proposed legislation was amended to financially penalize organizations instead.[16] According to transitional justice researcher Yoav Kapshuk and Political scientist Lisa Strömbom, this law was an attempt to "hamper freedom of expression" surrounding the Nakba, but in doing so it inadvertently "increased public knowledge about the meaning of Nakba".[7] In its wake, columnist Odeh Bisharat wrote that some good came out of the legislation, in that "at least, there's no denial of the Nakba. Nobody claims the whole thing is fairy-tale. The Palestinian narrative has won. The narrative that in '48 a people was exiled, by force, from its land, has seared into Israeli and global consciousness."[7]

In 2014 the Israeli government passed the Jewish Nakba law which created a commemoration day for Mizrahi Jews who migrated to Israel following their displacement from Arab countries.[17] Academics Yasmeen Abu-Laban and Abigail B. Bakan, writing in The Political Quarterly, argue that this law was an example of "aggressive [Nakba] denial" which is "aimed at blurring and confusing the memorialising" of the Palestinian Nakba.[18]
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apparently your governments brain- and white-washing operation was successful... very reminiscent of american textbooks being whitewashed in terms of slavery and the genocide of natives...

This post was edited by fender on Nov 5 2023 05:42pm
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Nov 5 2023 06:41pm
700 000 PALESTINIANS displaced during the NAKBA...
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Nov 5 2023 06:59pm
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700 000 PALESTINIANS displaced during the NAKBA...


they should really change their government and sue for peace. or maybe, release the hostages. imagine not fighting your own government who is offering you up as lamb for slaughter.
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Nov 5 2023 08:03pm
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 5 Nov 2023 13:59)
Slaughtering innocent young people at the rave festival, many of which were international tourists, does nothing to help Hamas beat the Israeli military.

Does Israel's response also do nothing to help beat Hamas?

Well, we can quibble about whether Hamas can be beaten by military means. Technically yes if we strictly talk about Hamas in its current iteration. Actually no if we're talking about the underlying ideology, which would come back under a different name even if Hamas was completely eradicated.

But that's beside the point. What is definitely achievable is crippling Hamas militarily and taking away their capacity to carry out larger attacks for at least several years - and that's exactly what Israel is trying to accomplish as we speak. Destroy their bases, their ammo depots, their missile launching sites, their tunnel system.

So yes, what Israel is doing right now makes sense and has some military and moral justification (even if it's certainly a feasible position to consider this justification insufficient for the amount of collateral damage they're causing in the process). By contrast, Hamas slaughtering civilians and tourists has no military justification. It only makes sense from the intricate and twisted logic of "escalate the conflict, thus trigger the usual anti-Israel and pro-Palestine reflexes within the Muslim world, which then advances our political goals like preventing a peace agreement between SA and ISR".

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 5 2023 08:07pm
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Nov 5 2023 08:15pm
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700 000 PALESTINIANS displaced during the NAKBA...


mhm and explain why this happened exactly. which war was going on in the region?
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Nov 5 2023 08:43pm
Quote (fender @ Nov 5 2023 04:41pm)
i hope YOU are reading it and doing some research, because apparently it's not being taught in israeli schools (hardly surprising). yes, your country was founded by ethnic cleansing, by literally destroying hundreds of palestinian villages. yes, "palestinian". the region was called "palestine" under the british mandate.



apparently your governments brain- and white-washing operation was successful... very reminiscent of american textbooks being whitewashed in terms of slavery and the genocide of natives...


You realize the Arabs were on the side of the Nazis. Probably why you’re still defending your Nazi brothers.
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Nov 5 2023 08:45pm
Quote (Landmine @ Nov 5 2023 06:43pm)
You realize the Arabs were on the side of the Nazis. Probably why you’re still defending your Nazi brothers.


People love to ignore this fact. They collaborated with Hitler to kill the Jews.
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