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Quote (fender @ Aug 23 2021 12:38pm)
you mean antagonising or even trying to replace the taliban? then you haven't been paying attention to how china conducts foreign policy, not gonna happen.


I don't know what your problem is. The UN is a liberal stronghold. I would think you'd love everything they do.
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Quote (Kuggergug @ 23 Aug 2021 23:21)
I don't know what your problem is. The UN is a liberal stronghold. I would think you'd love everything they do.


what are you even on about? not only are reasonably intelligent people capable of more nuance than that, it also has literally nothing to do with the point i'm making. all i'm saying is that if you expect the chinese to engage in similarly misguided nation building efforts, trying to hold the taliban to some kind of humanitarian standards (which would be a joke coming from china), or even trying to replace them, you're oblivious to how china conducts foreign policy and what they want out of that region.

i said it before, i'll say it again: the most likely scenario is a cooperation with the taliban, providing them with the foreign currency they so desperately need, in exchange for establishing chinese run trade hubs to extract whatever resources the deem worthy of exploiting, and they will remain "flexible" enough to maintain warm relations with whatever other (regional) faction might rise to power, to not endanger their economic interest by taking a firm political stance.

my point is that your "live-fire military experience gathering" scenario for chinese-taliban relations is unrealistic and completely out of character for chinese foreign policy. doesn't mean they are good guys or anything along those lines, just means you're ignorant when it comes to this topic.
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china will get a hold of afghanistan without losing one soldier or firing a single shot

they will make deals with the taliban, tribe leaders etc to get whatever access they want, then send in the full package to build infrastructure and get operations going

all done by the chinese of course, the entire revenue and value will go to china, afghans will get some slave jobs at best

the only difference is that usually the chinese use loans to other governments, the taliban wont do that stuff for religious reasons

so it will come down to classic cash + whatever the taliban need in material resources deals
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china will get a hold of afghanistan without losing one soldier or firing a single shot

they will make deals with the taliban, tribe leaders etc to get whatever access they want, then send in the full package to build infrastructure and get operations going

all done by the chinese of course, the entire revenue and value will go to china, afghans will get some slave jobs at best

the only difference is that usually the chinese use loans to other governments, the taliban wont do that stuff for religious reasons

so it will come down to classic cash + whatever the taliban need in material resources deals


I bet you a good 1/2 of all that loot US left will end up in Chinese hands.
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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Aug 23 2021 11:57pm)
china will get a hold of afghanistan without losing one soldier or firing a single shot

they will make deals with the taliban, tribe leaders etc to get whatever access they want, then send in the full package to build infrastructure and get operations going

all done by the chinese of course, the entire revenue and value will go to china, afghans will get some slave jobs at best

the only difference is that usually the chinese use loans to other governments, the taliban wont do that stuff for religious reasons

so it will come down to classic cash + whatever the taliban need in material resources deals


Most likely yes. The Chinese love developing countries that are rich in minerals

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