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Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 22 2021 10:22am)
The was nothing to rewrite lol. It was literally just a matter of logistically setting things up. That's not some herculean task, we're the fucking USA, read up on the gulf war and how in a manner of a few months we literally deployed 700,000k soldiers and in a matter of weeks repelled and destroyed an army of 300,000. Logistical feats like that can happen 30 years ago but planning flights for 50-60k afghan allies cant over the span of 7 months? What needed to happen could have been accomplished in literally a few weeks and from when Biden took office until August it could have been planned a dozen times over. This is a US failure, not a presidents failure. Biden will go down in history as the face of it but like i'v said before the real fault lies with the hawks and our military.

You're right in saying that's it's not Trumps policies that held things together though that's just memery. Trump didn't do it on his term because the democrats and the military got together and basically congressionally handcuffed him from doing it, which is great to watch this blow up in their face now.


systemically it is the fault of "country building" when we crushed the 300k ARMY we were acting at a "90%" at war. Not ridiculous ROE etc. no reason to be there EVER, so no wonder it failed.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Aug 22 2021 01:22pm)
The was nothing to rewrite lol. It was literally just a matter of logistically setting things up. That's not some herculean task, we're the fucking USA, read up on the gulf war and how in a manner of a few months we literally deployed 700,000k soldiers and in a matter of weeks repelled and destroyed an army of 300,000. Logistical feats like that can happen 30 years ago but planning flights for 50-60k afghan allies cant over the span of 7 months? What needed to happen could have been accomplished in literally a few weeks and from when Biden took office until August it could have been planned a dozen times over. This is a US failure, not a presidents failure, talking about the macro shit show in Afghanistan that is. Biden will go down in history as the face of it but like i'v said before the real fault lies with the hawks and our military.

You're right in saying that's it's not Trumps policies that held things together though that's just memery. Trump didn't do it on his term because the democrats and the military got together and basically congressionally handcuffed him from doing it, which is great to watch this blow up in their face now and them having to take ownership of the fumbling.


>the 08' recession wasn't Obama's fault
>the recovery was Obama's fault
>the vaccine was Biden's fault
>Afghanistan was Trump's fault

trololol

I wish I could debate like them. I could lie to people and be a lawyer instead of dealing with engineer office politics.

I'd work at Raytheon and sell Afghan soldiers $3,000 vegan milkshakes.
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that's true ?

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Michael Flynn was right.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 23 2021 09:46am)
https://i.postimg.cc/kgfSHN6f/afg.png

"We spent $1 million per soldier to get them Burger King and bottled water".

Michael Flynn was right.


To be fair, when you are global superpower and military arm of the UN and NATO, it probably makes a ton of sense to spend billions to actively train soldiers and give them live-fire real-world experience. China is far behind the US in terms of military experience. I wouldn't be shocked to see China enter Afghanistan and set up its own military training base to give their troops live-fire experience.
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To be fair, when you are global superpower and military arm of the UN and NATO, it probably makes a ton of sense to spend billions to actively train soldiers and give them live-fire real-world experience. China is far behind the US in terms of military experience. I wouldn't be shocked to see China enter Afghanistan and set up its own military training base to give their troops live-fire experience.


you mean antagonising or even trying to replace the taliban? then you haven't been paying attention to how china conducts foreign policy, not gonna happen.
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you mean antagonising or even trying to replace the taliban? then you haven't been paying attention to how china conducts foreign policy, not gonna happen.


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you mean antagonising or even trying to replace the taliban? then you haven't been paying attention to how china conducts foreign policy, not gonna happen.


China will conduct in in the same way that Trump did. Give us what we want or we kill everything you ever loved.
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