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Trump policies are the grenade, hes the one that released 5,000 taliban fighters along with their leader and told them he would be pulling out the troops.


Both of which are the right thing to do. People in the west have the wrong view on the Taliban. They aren't terrorists, they're not al-Qaeda or ISIS. They are Islamic fundamentalists but for the most part they don't fuck with the rest of the world if left alone.

Releasing those fighters was a first step to withdrawal, a withdrawal that should of happened under Obamas term.
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Both of which are the right thing to do. People in the west have the wrong view on the Taliban. They aren't terrorists, they're not al-Qaeda or ISIS. They are Islamic fundamentalists but for the most part they don't fuck with the rest of the world if left alone.

Releasing those fighters was a first step to withdrawal, a withdrawal that should of happened under Obamas term.


Point is if we are in the middle of a "foreign catastrophe", it's because things were left that way by the previous administration. It's dishonest to paint this as a Biden exclusive problem. It was going to be a fucking mess no matter when or who pulled out, so saying Trump's policies were the only thing keeping the grenade from exploding is dumb.

and yes, Obama should have kept this promise to pull out by the end of his term. He had 8 years and the administrative competence to do so. Which is one of the reasons why the left constantly compared him to Bush.

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Point is if we are in the middle of a "foreign catastrophe", it's because things were left that way by the previous administration. It's dishonest to paint this as a Biden exclusive problem. It was going to be a fucking mess no matter when or who pulled out, so saying Trump's policies were the only thing keeping the grenade from exploding is dumb.


No. I know you guys like to tie everything bad to Trump but that's simply not true. There is little to nothing he could have done or said that would have predicted this mess. This mess is not a result of the negotiations that happened a year and a half ago but rather the on the ground, in the moment execution. Biden deserves the blame on the execution, and our general historical foreign policy and military deserve the brunt of the blame being in a position where we were in Afghanistan for 20 years with no clear mission or exit plan.

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No. I know you guys like to tie everything bad to Trump but that's simply not true. There is little to nothing he could have done or said that would have predicted this mess. This mess is not a result of the negotiations that happened a year and a half ago but rather the on the ground, in the moment execution. Biden deserves the blame on the execution, and our general historical foreign policy and military deserve the brunt of the blame being in a position where we are in Afghanistan for 20 years with no clear mission or exit plan.


I know you guys are obsessed with a president's legacy ending the second they leave office, but that just isn't true. Biden doesn't have the power to totally rewrite our military infrastructure, including intelligence networks, in six months.

Trump's policies were not the thing holding back disaster upon our pullout. It was going to be a disaster no matter who did it, and that's one reason why we've been in there for so long. Nobody has wanted to do it and take the political heat. Probably why Trump didn't do it during his term and set the deadline for his second term honestly.



and just to be clear, I'm not saying that Trump's policies are bad. I'm not saying that the pullout shouldn't happen. I'm not saying that Trump's plans were inadequate. I am saying that Trump's policies were not the pin keeping us from "foreign and domestic disaster" as the picture depicts. If Trump had stayed in office we would be in much the same situation as we are now, because a president's legacy doesn't evaporate the second he leaves office.

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the guy gets himself the tattoo suburban legend on his own chin.
what a complete fucking loser. No wonder that thing is in his car





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the guy gets himself the tattoo suburban legend on his own chin.
what a complete fucking loser. No wonder that thing is in his car


What does "suburban legend" mean? Is it a reference I'm missing out on?
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the guy gets himself the tattoo suburban legend on his own chin.
what a complete fucking loser. No wonder that thing is in his car



https://i.imgur.com/oMzurmF.jpg


He could probably crush both of you in a fight at the same time.
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I know you guys are obsessed with a president's legacy ending the second they leave office, but that just isn't true. Biden doesn't have the power to totally rewrite our military infrastructure, including intelligence networks, in six months.

Trump's policies were not the thing holding back disaster upon our pullout. It was going to be a disaster no matter who did it, and that's one reason why we've been in there for so long. Nobody has wanted to do it and take the political heat. Probably why Trump didn't do it during his term and set the deadline for his second term honestly.



and just to be clear, I'm not saying that Trump's policies are bad. I'm not saying that the pullout shouldn't happen. I'm not saying that Trump's plans were inadequate. I am saying that Trump's policies were not the pin keeping us from "foreign and domestic disaster" as the picture depicts. If Trump had stayed in office we would be in much the same situation as we are now, because a president's legacy doesn't evaporate the second he leaves office.


The was nothing to rewrite lol. It was literally just a matter of logistically setting things up. That's not some herculean task, we're the fucking USA, read up on the gulf war and how in a manner of a few months we literally deployed 700,000k soldiers and in a matter of weeks repelled and destroyed an army of 300,000. Logistical feats like that can happen 30 years ago but planning flights for 50-60k afghan allies cant over the span of 7 months? What needed to happen could have been accomplished in literally a few weeks and from when Biden took office until August it could have been planned a dozen times over. This is a US failure, not a presidents failure, talking about the macro shit show in Afghanistan that is. Biden will go down in history as the face of it but like i'v said before the real fault lies with the hawks and our military.

You're right in saying that's it's not Trumps policies that held things together though that's just memery. Trump didn't do it on his term because the democrats and the military got together and basically congressionally handcuffed him from doing it, which is great to watch this blow up in their face now and them having to take ownership of the fumbling.

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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Aug 22 2021 10:04am)
What does "suburban legend" mean? Is it a reference I'm missing out on?


no its just his internal opinion of himself.. makes it even sadder
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