I dont want to, but I could.

Thousands could and did it, thats why thousands of religions exist.

You say you could but you don't want to. Is it too much effort for you to make up a lie? Why would you make a claim if you weren't prepared to back it up?

Funny that you ask this, cause you are obviously not prepared to back up your claims either

you did a variation of it (where i bolded it)

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Quote (El1te @ Nov 4 2023 05:48am)
Science says: The universe was created in an instant

Christianity says: God created the universe in an instant

Hope this helps


The difference is how we come to this conclusion and how we approach it.

1) Christianity says God DEFINITELY created the universe in an instant.

Science says: The universe was PROBABLY created in an instant.
Thats how you usually approach things you cant prove.

2) Religion doesnt explain how it happened, what came before god, were he was before his creation, what he did before.

Science has, thx to Einstein, the theory of spacetime. A singularity exploded and created space and time. What was before that? Time was created in that moment, so there was no before. That is at least a theoretical explanation. It might not be true, you never know - but its way more plausible.

Science always questions itself and never claims those theories to be the truth. They just try to close in on the truth by going with the most plausible explanations.

Hope this helps

and BTW "Science always questions itself and never claims those theories to be the truth. They just try to close in on the truth by going with the most plausible explanations."
is just some bullchit you insist on believeing

This post was edited by TiStuff on Nov 8 2023 02:51pm

a supreme creator cannot be just or perfectly surpreme/omnipotent if it allows for longwithstanding torture or suffering.

so if some1 is facing persecution or even torment, & said person treats themselves or others beneath them better, lets say a dog, then by that occurrence god isnt perfectly just.
god would have to treat that man better, otherwise a man would be more righteous than god.
there are many examples that act as ways to disprove the topical claims the bible makes or what many imply. have to delineate between theory and scripture. the bible is composed of many scriptures that scripture did not mandate be composed like that, it was forged by mans hands in that way.

the great philosophers knew this, thats why they critique the bible heavily and cite the book of job as a main reason that the god of the old testament, (according to the old testaments narratives) is conflicted or wrong.
that story was about satan asking to harm a holy man and god approved. atheist food imo or bible according to the devil, like history according to the victor.

obviously god is dead in some way, this explains why all manner of torment, unrest, unjust, and idiotic replies are allowed. & why atheists attack the flaws in the bible, & the christians flaws in atheism(their belief in 1% science or scientism).
They both fail to realize the bible, confusion, and evolution is according to the victors who are the lineage of satanists.

so both evolving from germ mud or muddled theology is what atheists and Christians have in common. if only the atheists could say no to evolution and Christians say no to externalizing god(bowing to jesus worship), then youd have something - the true self again.
until then its good cop bad cop as the black hole abyss consumes and uses the talking dead.

This post was edited by lodd222 on Nov 8 2023 04:39pm

Typical narcissistic response, however that doesn't work on me. In your very own words you said:



Post: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=79750090&f=119&p=653838415#p653838415

What did you do in response when challenged to back up that claim?



Post: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=79750090&f=119&p=653855409#p653855409

Now you're claiming that I'm not prepared to back up my claims? I'll make a claim based on the above.

All you did was expose your insecurities. I claim that, based on the above, you are unable to write a genesis story. I claim that you talk big but fall flat when it comes to action.

Before you try and claim that I'm idle, take one look at this thread and see that I am actively participating and not using idle chatter: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=101685324&f=119

Evil exists because God granted us free will.

The existence of free will and the absence of evil are mutually incompatible. It's logically inconsistent. Free will means we have the ability to do evil.

That "variation" did not necessarily mean "who made god".

Your claim: God exists

Your proof: Non existent

This post was edited by Modulok2405 on Nov 9 2023 01:37am

The proof of God is plain to see once you stop viewing God as an anthropomorphic physical object and start viewing God instead as a transcendent moral good