If you are unsure about my position the appropriate response is to ask questions. Instead you just asserted things I've never agreed with and never implied I would agree with. Try to approach the conversation as a conversation instead of a duel, because just blindly asserting that the other person thinks something is a great way to just look dumb.

You are basically arguing from the premise that as long as social mobility is in some way possible, then wealth inequality cannot be an issue. That is incredibly stupid. There is no other way to put it, you are making yourself look like a fool.

Do you really think I'm a lazy incel? Because I've been pretty candid on this forum. I'm happily married, employed full time, and make an amount of money that will easily carry me to retirement and living a middle or upper middle class life. I get it, your ego isn't able to cope with reasonable and successful people disagreeing with you. I'm sorry you are so fragile.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jul 28 2021 05:16pm

If you overweight i'd say yes you are lazy. You can have whatever you claim to have but if you can't take care of your own self, i call that lazy yes.

I would usually say uneducated first but you claim you smart so... let's call it laziness.

I am not a leftist and i do not care about blm, those "laws and regulations" actually increase exploitation, they only affect regular people, once the punishment is a fine it becomes a business cost.
When i was an executive for a major oil company discussions about whether to do something or not focused on two things: Public image and cost, if we would not get negative publicity and we were going to profit more than any potential fines should we get caught we would proceed regardless of the law.

That should be obvious to most

Well that just answers itself doesn't it? Non ethical business practices are not exclusive to big companies as you trying to conflate the two. You are trying to solve a human spiritual/evolutionary/psychological problem through mandated laws and regulations.
It has never worked. I also support smaller government but your solution is to create more laws which is giving more power and creating bigger government ironically.

This post was edited by addone on Jul 28 2021 05:35pm

Wrong, i am trying to eliminate laws, specifically crush corporate personhood, only allow incorporation if it can show a public good like originally intended, and loosen copyright laws to allow more upward mobility for the middle class.
It is not a "human spiritual/evolutionary/psychological problem" its a human greed problem built on a hundred years of lobbying.
Non ethical business practices that carry fines ARE limited to big business, because a small business can't take a $10,000 hit over a shady pipe and not care about it.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Jul 28 2021 05:37pm

I am pretty sure I've already told you this and even if I hadn't then telling you now big companies are designed to work together to achieve things beyond the scope of small and individual people can. So if you going to turn up with your torch and pitchfork outside a big corporate gate make sure you have a solution instead of just bitching. Btw "have less power" is non solution

This post was edited by addone on Jul 28 2021 05:42pm

We simply fundamentally disagree on the direction society should take, and that is ok.
You think 50 people should own all of the worlds wealth i think the opposite, end of story, nothing left to debate.

This post was edited by Plaguefear on Jul 28 2021 05:43pm

I don't care if one person owns the entire galaxy good for them. As long as I am able to do whatever I want without infringing on the rights of others and no ceiling to advance to whatever position i desire then who cares.

here is an extract from cwg

"Envy is a natural emotion. It is the emotion that makes a five-year-old wish he could reach the doorknob the way his sister can -- or ride that bike. Envy is the natural emotion that makes you want to do it again; to try harder; to continue striving until you succeed. It is very healthy to be envious, very natural. When children are allowed to express their envy, they bring a very healthy attitude about it to their adult years, and therefore usually move through their envy very quickly.

Children who are made to feel that envy is not okay -- that it is wrong to express it, and, in fact, that they shouldn't even experience it -- will have a difficult time appropriately dealing with their envy as adults.

Envy that is continually repressed becomes jealousy, a very unnatural emotion. People have killed because of jealousy. Wars have started, nations have fallen."

More strawmen, it is not envy that dictates my position against exploitation, you thinking so is because you think with greed rather than empathy.
I am not jealous of people exploiting others for profit, i have that option available to me and choose not to do so, i despise people who exploit others because they are becoming wealthy at the expense of a society they exploit without providing tangible benefit to.
You only think about your own interests, the best part is you are the fodder these billionaires love, you will NEVER be a billionaire but you are only a freak accident away from homelessness.