If you did read the Bible you would know that this supposed knowledge we have was given to us by God. If God is the tree then you are the branch. If the branch gets cut off the tree then there's no way the branch survives. You can try to argue all you want but the problem with that is you are trying to argue against the very being that gives you live.

Cut yourself off the tree and you will not survive. All knowledge you have was given to you by God.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/when%20hell%20freezes%20over

King James Bible
So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Exodus-23-19/

This post was edited by lodd222 on Oct 31 2023 01:10pm

at the end of the vid she opens the fridge and screams lol what a TDS leftie does when they see a trump commercial


This post was edited by TiStuff on Oct 31 2023 01:32pm

the opposite of warm life is cold death. he who understands the mystery of these sayings will not taste death.
be shrewd and discern.

I never said, that that is something I take "by faith" or would bet my life on.

The scientific theory of the big bang (which is what you refer to I suppose) is what makes the most scense. Literally. Its explainable to abdegree, it could be the truth. Eight now I go with it, because its the most the only theory that has a foundation we can explain in a way.

There is a difference between the way I go with those thing and the way people blindliy believe in religion. A BIG difference.

I would never say I am 100% sure or convinced about the big bang. Absolutely not.

Dude I know what the bible claims, its just the I dont give a fuck about it. I dont think we got anything from god, okay? Thats just a claim. Thats just words. Meaningless claims.

Everything we have is a gift from God. We even thank God every single night before dinner for giving us the food to eat. You should care, all you have and all you know was given to you by the Grace of God.

Yeah dude...and you know that because of what?

Thats exactly what this discussion is all about. Its just not leading anywhere when you quote the bible to prove the bible.

If I say something and you say prove it and I respond with "My proof is that I say so" then this doesnt work. Do you see what the problem is?

No I don't.

It just so happens that over a decade ago the Church I went to did a series based on this very topic: Can you really trust the Bible? I wrote down everything and put it into a thread. You can read it here:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66318140&f=125

One of the first things you read in the Bible is the word of the serpent questioning God's Word. Who is more trustworthy, the serpent or God? Did God really say you must not eat off any tree? You will not certainly die!

What about the start of Luke's Gospel 1:1-4

1 Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

I myself have questioned and tested the things written in the Bible and every single time the Bible has been held to be trustworthy and true. I'm not just blindly accepting the Bible as true, I've asked the questions and demanded satisfactory answers -- which I've received. I'm also one of the living proof of one whose life is completely changed for the better after giving my life to Jesus.

wasnt talking about the "big bang" i was talking about life (living systems)
you really believe its reasonable to believe this is the product of some kind of random accidental process?
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