Quote (Surfpunk @ Jul 16 2021 01:45pm)

You realize you just compared a living wage to a bare subsistence wage as if they were equal, right? Being barely able to afford the basics isn't a living wage, regardless of the country or economic system.

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Even those reporting no income at all in the US have consumption possibilities roughly equal to those reporting incomes of $20 a day. And to repeat, yes, this is adjusting for the different value of money in different places and countries.

Thus we can say that by global standards there are no poor people in the US at all: the entire country is at least middle class or better. We seem to have fought and won that War on Poverty.

This still leaves us with the war in inequality of course but then that's a rather different matter.

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Quote (Kuggergug @ Jul 16 2021 11:34am)

Uh, except its republicans that support a living wage, health care, and humans rights, because a free market society is what republicans are fighting for and a free market society BEST provides these things.

All you are doing by posting that image is showing your stupidity.

Quote (Kuggergug @ Jul 16 2021 11:34am)

Uh, except its republicans that support a living wage, health care, and humans rights, because a free market society is what republicans are fighting for and a free market society BEST provides these things.

All you are doing by posting that image is showing your stupidity.

Quote (thundercock @ Jul 16 2021 02:37pm)

Republicans aren't free market...they are very pro regulation of several industries.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 16 2021 12:42pm)

Which ones

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 16 2021 02:42pm)

Which ones

Quote (thundercock @ Jul 16 2021 03:47pm)

Social media and labor off the top of my head. DeSantis wants to regulate the cruise industry now to prevent them from requiring vaccines which is obviously silly. We should allow companies to come up with their own procedures for protecting customers in non-essential industries IMO.

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Social media and labor off the top of my head. DeSantis wants to regulate the cruise industry now to prevent them from requiring vaccines which is obviously silly. We should allow companies to come up with their own procedures for protecting customers in non-essential industries IMO.

Quote (ofthevoid @ Jul 16 2021 03:55pm)

Ehh social media is appropriate. Both sides agree, I think people also agree. Corporates lose the privilege of the free market when they’ve become the public square and de facto information keepers.

The cruise thing is more about scoring political points vs actually doing something meaningful.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Jul 16 2021 05:01pm)

If "both sides agree" on a limitation on the free market that doesn't mean it's not a limit on free market.

The guiding force of the Republican party is not the free market. It's corporate power. Mostly the same for Dems, but Republicans crank it up to 11.