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Nov 11 2020 11:51pm
Quote (thundercock @ 11 Nov 2020 21:34)
Trump doesn't need to concede. There are no legal ramifications regarding a concession and his refusal to concede so just reflects his character. In terms of Biden becoming President, I'd put that at 99.9%. Kamala would be the next most likely followed by Nancy Pelosi. The only reason we have these meritless lawsuits is due to white fragility.

Do you just ignore the election all together until the electoral college actually votes? That's an asinine position IMO. At that point, you might as well wait until someone is actually inaugurated. After all, you'd be quite the partisan hack to assume that winning the electoral college means you're going to be POTUS.


Interesting. The highest odds I've seen Vegas offering were 1:20 in biden's favor. So based on that I'd say I'd give Biden a 95% chance to win. I gave Hillary a 99.9% chance to win, and she lost. So I'm not ready to propose those odds. Though if you really believe in those odds, I'd be happy to bet 1 fg vs your 999 fg, me on Trump, you on Biden? Don't like wasting FG outside of Ladderslasher, but I can probably manage 1fg for that bet. You'll need to scare up a bit more to cover your end though.

Your "white fragility" bit is funny. Trump lost a fairly sizeable percentage in the white vote, and did BETTER among minority voters than he did in 2016. Odd that you bring identity politics into it.

Nobody is ignoring election results. I'm still waiting on some house and senate seats to be called. But more and more, the media appears to be showing it's extreme bias where anything republican-led is. As an independent, that screams "partisanship" to me. Why did it take them a week to call Alaska's senate and house seat, for instance? Is it because they refused to call it until the State itself released this: https://www.elections.alaska.gov/results/20GENR/data/sovc/ElectionSummaryReportRPT13.pdf by chance? I mean, they called Hawaii as blue with 0 reporting, prior to the polls even being closed.

Again, take a step back, forget your bias for a moment, and simply assess what you've seen. Any state where Biden took a lead as healthy as Trump's lead in Florida was called within an hour. Then you have states like MI, WI, and GA where Trump had an incredibly healthy lead, as did red house seats, and they refused to call anything for days to a week. Why?

I'm not jumping to fraud or misconduct conclusions. I'm merely questioning the media's conduct. When you have reporters saying, "How could trump win? We already called it! It's OUR job to call the elections!" Um... No. So, do I trust the media reporting? Not particularly. Do I think they're wrong? Not necessarily. I simply advise to wait, and stop with this useless nonsense of "Oh, candidate x or y or z should simply concede because here's what the media has said!" That's not how the contest works.
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Nov 11 2020 11:52pm
Quote (Jere @ Nov 11 2020 09:47pm)
Well, Tucker finally picked it up. He may be a righty, but he comes out from an investigative perspective.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbfdjjd4uKo


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Nov 11 2020 11:54pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 11 2020 11:51pm)
Again, take a step back, forget your bias for a moment, and simply assess what you've seen. Any state where Biden took a lead as healthy as Trump's lead in Florida was called within an hour. Then you have states like MI, WI, and GA where Trump had an incredibly healthy lead, as did red house seats, and they refused to call anything for days to a week. Why?


Because it took days to count all the mail in ballots in those states specifically.

Those states flipped to Biden, and we knew there were millions of outstanding ballots in which Biden was getting a great majority, so they were absolutely correct not to call them for days or a week.
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Nov 11 2020 11:56pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 12 Nov 2020 04:50)
Even if he doesnt run again himself, he will still be the kingmaker in the 2024 GOP primaries. Over the past 5 years, nothing fundamental about the intra-party balance of power within the GOP has changed: the Trump wing is still the largest and most riled up faction. If he endorses one of the other candidates, that candidate will be the huge front runner for the nomination.


Today it sill work, but in 4 years... Too many things can happen, can't speculate he will be a "kingmaker". First let's observe him losing and pardon himself, then still being sued by states etc..
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Nov 11 2020 11:58pm
Quote (Jere @ Nov 12 2020 12:47am)
Well, Tucker finally picked it up. He may be a righty, but he comes out from an investigative perspective.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lbfdjjd4uKo



Even in his delivery he just comes off like a dick. Crazy that trump cultists can be such dick heads and just act like it’s an OK way to talk
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Nov 12 2020 12:01am
“He died in 2006 but he’s made the remarkable feat of voting in the 2020 election”

Dude jump off a bridge
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Nov 12 2020 12:02am
Quote (Thor123422 @ 11 Nov 2020 21:54)
Because it took days to count all the mail in ballots in those states specifically.

Those states flipped to Biden, and we knew there were millions of outstanding ballots in which Biden was getting a great majority, so they were absolutely correct not to call them for days or a week.


That does not make sense. To take GA as an example: Ballots not received by 7pm were not accepted, by state law. Period, end of discussion. That is the law. They were at 94% reporting and over 4 million votes counted before they called it a night on election night. How can they count 4 million ballots in the space of one day, then have it take several days to count a mere million more? You aren't waiting for more to arrive postmarked, such as in Pennsylvania. Your "reason" is not reasonable. And it's questions like these that are leading to lawsuits. "Millions of outstanding ballots" isn't even factual. There were not "millions" of ballots that were not counted in the first night at all.

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Even in his delivery he just comes off like a dick. Crazy that trump cultists can be such dick heads and just act like it’s an OK way to talk


It's very telling that you do not address the content of the clip, merely the demeanor. If you don't like Tucker, that's fine. What does that have to do with the content of the clip?

Edit: From what I understand there'll be a hand recount in Georgia. Doubt it'll matter. But it is going to happen.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Nov 12 2020 12:04am
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Nov 12 2020 12:11am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 12 2020 01:02am)
That does not make sense. To take GA as an example: Ballots not received by 7pm were not accepted, by state law. Period, end of discussion. That is the law. They were at 94% reporting and over 4 million votes counted before they called it a night on election night. How can they count 4 million ballots in the space of one day, then have it take several days to count a mere million more? You aren't waiting for more to arrive postmarked, such as in Pennsylvania. Your "reason" is not reasonable. And it's questions like these that are leading to lawsuits. "Millions of outstanding ballots" isn't even factual. There were not "millions" of ballots that were not counted in the first night at all.



It's very telling that you do not address the content of the clip, merely the demeanor. If you don't like Tucker, that's fine. What does that have to do with the content of the clip?

Edit: From what I understand there'll be a hand recount in Georgia. Doubt it'll matter. But it is going to happen.


Listen Shit lick, dont ever bring up Tucker Carlsen ever again.

Tucker Carlsen was sued because of the bullshit he says on air, and his lawyers defense was literally that Carlsen doesn't speak facts and his statements shouldn't be actioned upon.

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Just read U.S. District Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil's opinion, leaning heavily on the arguments of Fox's lawyers: The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "
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She wrote: "Fox persuasively argues, that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statement he makes."



https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye

This post was edited by IroningTheMaiden on Nov 12 2020 12:11am
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Nov 12 2020 12:12am
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 12 2020 12:02am)
That does not make sense. To take GA as an example: Ballots not received by 7pm were not accepted, by state law. Period, end of discussion. That is the law. They were at 94% reporting and over 4 million votes counted before they called it a night on election night. How can they count 4 million ballots in the space of one day, then have it take several days to count a mere million more? You aren't waiting for more to arrive postmarked, such as in Pennsylvania. Your "reason" is not reasonable. And it's questions like these that are leading to lawsuits. "Millions of outstanding ballots" isn't even factual. There were not "millions" of ballots that were not counted in the first night at all.

It's very telling that you do not address the content of the clip, merely the demeanor. If you don't like Tucker, that's fine. What does that have to do with the content of the clip?

Edit: From what I understand there'll be a hand recount in Georgia. Doubt it'll matter. But it is going to happen.


Ballots cast that day don't have to be unpackaged, signature verified, or any number of other things that are unique to a mail-in ballot. It's easy to examine somebody's ID in person before you even give them a ballot which means the count time for same-day ballots is effectively zero. It can happen using a machine as the ballots are returned all throughout the day.

My explanation makes perfect sense if you took two seconds to do research instead of just proclaiming yourself correct and everybody who disagrees unreasonable.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Nov 12 2020 12:13am
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Nov 12 2020 12:13am
Quote (IroningTheMaiden @ 11 Nov 2020 22:11)
Listen Shit lick, dont ever bring up Tucker Carlsen ever again.

Tucker Carlsen was sued because of the bullshit he says on air, and his lawyers defense was literally that Carlsen doesn't speak facts and his statements shouldn't be actioned upon.


Perhaps you should readdress your post to the person who posted the Tucker clip. I did not "bring up" Tucker at all.

"Shitlick".

Pathetic. :rofl:
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