d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate > Election Day Megathread
Prev1459460461462463534Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 64,763
Joined: Oct 25 2006
Gold: 0.00
Nov 11 2020 10:35pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 11 2020 10:23pm)
Neither Trump nor the RNC could afford to bribe electors. Dems spent over double what the Republicans did this campaign cycle. They're the rich ones who can afford the bribes.

The fact is though, it is 100% illegal to bribe an elector. That's literal election fraud and is a federal felony. It's enough to deseat a sitting President AND remove a President-Elect's candidacy.

Perhaps you should go back to your first civics class prior to making such flimsy examples.


I'm asking you to engage in a hypothetical to point out that "legal" and "legitimate" are not necessarily the same.
Member
Posts: 21,486
Joined: Jul 21 2005
Gold: 438.40
Nov 11 2020 10:43pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 11 Nov 2020 20:35)
I'm asking you to engage in a hypothetical to point out that "legal" and "legitimate" are not necessarily the same.


I am not interested in hypotheticals in any way. I'm interested in who is going to be President on January 21st 2021. I see all discussion that does not revolve around what is currently going on as completely useless.

You don't think lawsuits should happen? That's your problem. You don't see that states should be encouraged to vote how they will? That's your problem. You think evidence should be discounted without being heard in court? That's your problem.

If everything you think and believe is correct, based on the currently legal rules of the contest, then Biden will win. Where exactly is your hangup here?

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Nov 11 2020 10:43pm
Member
Posts: 64,763
Joined: Oct 25 2006
Gold: 0.00
Nov 11 2020 10:56pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 11 2020 10:43pm)
I am not interested in hypotheticals in any way. I'm interested in who is going to be President on January 21st 2021. I see all discussion that does not revolve around what is currently going on as completely useless.

You don't think lawsuits should happen? That's your problem. You don't see that states should be encouraged to vote how they will? That's your problem. You think evidence should be discounted without being heard in court? That's your problem.

If everything you think and believe is correct, based on the currently legal rules of the contest, then Biden will win. Where exactly is your hangup here?


Then there is nothing to discuss, and you should just leave the forum because you'll find nothing here.

If you want to have an actual discussion come back, preferably after you've grown up a bit.
Member
Posts: 27,048
Joined: Dec 21 2007
Gold: 14,569.69
Nov 11 2020 11:01pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 11 2020 08:43pm)
I am not interested in hypotheticals in any way. I'm interested in who is going to be President on January 21st 2021. I see all discussion that does not revolve around what is currently going on as completely useless.

You don't think lawsuits should happen? That's your problem. You don't see that states should be encouraged to vote how they will? That's your problem. You think evidence should be discounted without being heard in court? That's your problem.

If everything you think and believe is correct, based on the currently legal rules of the contest, then Biden will win. Where exactly is your hangup here?


https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1326379473542012932?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1326387161822867457%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Flaura-ingraham-dragged-interviewing-anonymous-141950323.html
Member
Posts: 21,486
Joined: Jul 21 2005
Gold: 438.40
Nov 11 2020 11:11pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ 11 Nov 2020 20:56)
Then there is nothing to discuss, and you should just leave the forum because you'll find nothing here.

If you want to have an actual discussion come back, preferably after you've grown up a bit.


On the contrary. You're citing examples of issues that don't exist in an attempt to wring some concession from me. My answer is no to your elementary attempt at a strawman concession.

When you can "grow up" enough to understand that every competition has rules, and as long as the contestants are abiding by those rules, all actions are fair, you'll finally have joined the real world, rather than being some random self-aggrandizing armchair warrior.

To put it succinctly, kiddo: If you don't like the rules, bow out of the competition and find a competition more to your liking. If you like the competition enough that you want to participate regardless, don't complain when others utilize those rules to their advantage.

Any other words of wisdom, or are you done?

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Nov 11 2020 11:13pm
Member
Posts: 35,291
Joined: Aug 17 2004
Gold: 12,730.67
Nov 11 2020 11:17pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 11 2020 08:43pm)
I am not interested in hypotheticals in any way. I'm interested in who is going to be President on January 21st 2021. I see all discussion that does not revolve around what is currently going on as completely useless.

You don't think lawsuits should happen? That's your problem. You don't see that states should be encouraged to vote how they will? That's your problem. You think evidence should be discounted without being heard in court? That's your problem.

If everything you think and believe is correct, based on the currently legal rules of the contest, then Biden will win. Where exactly is your hangup here?


Easy. Joe Biden. Next!
Member
Posts: 64,763
Joined: Oct 25 2006
Gold: 0.00
Nov 11 2020 11:18pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 11 2020 11:11pm)
On the contrary. You're citing examples of issues that don't exist in an attempt to wring some concession from me. My answer is no to your elementary attempt at a strawman concession.

When you can "grow up" enough to understand that every competition has rules, and as long as the contestants are abiding by those rules, all actions are fair, you'll finally have joined the real world, rather than being some random self-aggrandizing armchair warrior.

To put it succinctly, kiddo: If you don't like the rules, bow out of the competition and find a competition more to your liking. If you like the competition enough that you want to participate regardless, don't complain when others utilize those rules to their advantage.

Any other words of wisdom, or are you done?


This is an exceptionally stupid post. If I don't like the rules of the presidential election I should go play a different presidential election? What? You trying to treat this like a board game is one of the reasons why I (and plenty of others) call you immature.
Member
Posts: 21,486
Joined: Jul 21 2005
Gold: 438.40
Nov 11 2020 11:22pm
Quote (thundercock @ 11 Nov 2020 21:17)
Easy. Joe Biden. Next!


Most likely. Then again, it's not settled until the 14th of December, or at whatever point Trump concedes (or Biden concedes). So, by calling it with any degree of "certainty" you're exhibiting certainty on a subject that still lacks certainty. Why not be accurate and state, "Everything currently swings in Biden's favor, but for now, we'll have to wait and see?"

See, this is part of the problem. Those who are saying, "Trump's still going to win this" and those who're saying "Biden has won this" are both just partisan hacks and shills. The first group doesn't and can't know, and Trump's not looking great. So they lack the evidence needed to point to a Trump win. The electoral vote hasn't been cast, and votes are not even fully counted in several states, and are not certified in any, so the second group is simply lying. I'm sorry to say it, but as a portion of the second group, you're lying. Hate to shrug you off, but you're clearly not a credible source.

Quote (Thor123422 @ 11 Nov 2020 21:18)
This is an exceptionally stupid post. If I don't like the rules of the presidential election I should go play a different presidential election? What? You trying to treat this like a board game is one of the reasons why I (and plenty of others) call you immature.


Yes, your post is exceptionally stupid. It's not a board game. It's not a game at all. It's a contest to become the President of the United States of America. There are clearly stated rules. Every time you point the finger at one candidate and exclaim "He's evil for doing this!" No they're not. If they're competing within the set rules and guidelines, they're trying to win the competition. Given it's possibly one of the most important competitions on the planet, it's nothing like "tipping your king". The future of not only the US but the world will change depending on who wins this competition. For some elementary little self-aggrandizing random on the internet to go and claim "Things aren't right because I said so!" is possibly the most arrogant and STUPID thing that could be said.

Try harder, genius. You're failing at every count. Again, it's a competition. You screaming at everyone who has questions has no impact. You claiming 23523462365 times that Biden "won" has no impact. You claiming that things "should be different" has no impact. Things are what they are. Grow up and deal with it, or close your browser and go away, as you clearly are not equipped to handle reality.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Nov 11 2020 11:26pm
Member
Posts: 35,291
Joined: Aug 17 2004
Gold: 12,730.67
Nov 11 2020 11:34pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 11 2020 09:22pm)
Most likely. Then again, it's not settled until the 14th of December, or at whatever point Trump concedes (or Biden concedes). So, by calling it with any degree of "certainty" you're exhibiting certainty on a subject that still lacks certainty. Why not be accurate and state, "Everything currently swings in Biden's favor, but for now, we'll have to wait and see?"

See, this is part of the problem. Those who are saying, "Trump's still going to win this" and those who're saying "Biden has won this" are both just partisan hacks and shills. The first group doesn't and can't know, and Trump's not looking great. So they lack the evidence needed to point to a Trump win. The electoral vote hasn't been cast, and votes are not even fully counted in several states, and are not certified in any, so the second group is simply lying. I'm sorry to say it, but as a portion of the second group, you're lying. Hate to shrug you off, but you're clearly not a credible source.



Trump doesn't need to concede. There are no legal ramifications regarding a concession and his refusal to concede so just reflects his character. In terms of Biden becoming President, I'd put that at 99.9%. Kamala would be the next most likely followed by Nancy Pelosi. The only reason we have these meritless lawsuits is due to white fragility.

Do you just ignore the election all together until the electoral college actually votes? That's an asinine position IMO. At that point, you might as well wait until someone is actually inaugurated. After all, you'd be quite the partisan hack to assume that winning the electoral college means you're going to be POTUS.
Member
Posts: 24,252
Joined: Mar 28 2007
Gold: Locked
Trader: Scammer
Warn: 10%
Nov 11 2020 11:47pm
Well, Tucker finally picked it up. He may be a righty, but he comes out from an investigative perspective.
Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
Prev1459460461462463534Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll