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Quote (Goomshill @ 18 Jun 2020 16:55)
Justice Thomas has the right of the DACA decision in his dissent, even if the majority had the better outcome.
The Supreme Court is plainly playing politics and doesn't want to be responsible for ending DACA after having the buck passed to them and punted it right back to the president even though the legal theory is bogus.
By asserting themselves as arbiters of what is arbitrary and capricious in an executive order they are replacing the executive's exclusive decision making power with their own.
Its a dangerous precedent and they know it, they can themselves arbitrarily and capriciously strike down any decision by labeling it such.
At the same time, they sure as fuck did not want to end DACA nor take responsibility for ending DACA during an election year.
Even by the low standards of SCOTUS passing the buck- usually be declining cert without comment or finding some procedural quibble to latch onto- this is a weak punt.
So once again, ball is in the court of congress and the president. Either could end DACA any time they wanted to. Since there's no support in congress, its up to Trump to prevaricate and come up with excuses for why he's not doing what he said he'll do.
Most likely outcome he'll just set it up for another bargaining chip after the election, assuming he wins.

but we can't just dismiss the dangers posed by this kind of ruling. As Thomas says, "This ruling is incorrect and it will hamstring all future agency attempts to undo actions that exceed statutory authority."
if one president can arbitrarily and capriciously enact an executive order with no judicial oversight, but another cannot rescind it without judicial stamp of approval, its a fundamental imbalance of powers


This so much!!! :thumbsup:
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Quote (Goomshill @ 18 Jun 2020 10:55)
but we can't just dismiss the dangers posed by this kind of ruling. As Thomas says, "This ruling is incorrect and it will hamstring all future agency attempts to undo actions that exceed statutory authority."
if one president can arbitrarily and capriciously enact an executive order with no judicial oversight, but another cannot rescind it without judicial stamp of approval, its a fundamental imbalance of powers


Quote (Black XistenZ @ 18 Jun 2020 11:20)
This so much!!! :thumbsup:


yep. this some straight snitch bullshit concocted by roberts yet again
with a straight face he said 'EOs are fine but another President doing anything, even another EO to reverse the former EO is illegal'. well precedent has been set, any President now can just EO at-will and no one, not the courts nor subsequent Presidents, can undo them.

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i would vote for trump just on the fact that the media is desperately trying to besmirch him in anyway even if its self caused.
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https://thehill.com/policy/defense/503370-top-democrats-introduce-bill-to-stop-trumps-germany-withdrawal#

democrats demand more troops abroad to set the stage for more war

since when do Senators determine the placing of troops in bases during peacetime? lmfao what next does the Commander in Chief have to run it by Powell, Mattis, Esper, McCains ghost etc. when it comes time to making military decisions?
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Quote (Giannis @ Jun 18 2020 10:42pm)


This is how empty liberal's brains actually are
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This is how empty liberal's brains actually are


as opposed to believing in imaginary allies, when the objective facts are quite literally in front of your eyes to see
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