well ? its my business if your going to tell me its false
or?
if its none of my business then its none of your business to tell me its false

pretty much the conclusion here is your not rejecting God for intellectual reasons

This post was edited by TiStuff on Oct 26 2023 07:03pm

I reject god because no one could provide me any evidence backing up the claim of his existence yet. Simple thing. If you can give me a reason to believe he exists then I am ready to change my mind.

People think they figured "it" out, but could never do it in a way that could varify the bible as god's word - so whats it worth? Maybe it works as self-therapy for some, but Lord of the Rings can do that to so whatever.

We as humans are the only ones to figure out anything. No one helps as with anything afaik. If you have evidence for our eternal Papi then bring it forth.

This post was edited by Modulok2405 on Oct 26 2023 11:09pm

Ahh, you've been spending too much time with addone.

Let me ask you this question: Have you ever heard of/played a game called Among Us?



I'm an example of one whose life was turned around for the better after giving my life to Jesus. Literally saved my life.

Has a trilogy that goes for 9 hours in total saved your life? There are some things that we humans are unable to figure out. We still have no answer to avoid death. You can prolong your life and get aging cream to look younger but in the end, death comes to all.

I have spent exaxtly zero seconds of my life with addone and I also never played Among Us.

You are avsolutely not a valid example, because your personal life experience doesnt provide anything evidential for me. Its just personal experience which is - as proof - worthless.

I was not talking about the movies dude. We talked about books here. Books often help people, not only yours.

This post was edited by Modulok2405 on Oct 27 2023 02:29am

if your being honest here then i would say 'evolution/abiogenesis is your stumbling block.
and since you 'believe that uncritically ..........
after all i have shown you all the fraud and questionable 'science that has come from 'atheists, to zero affect it would seem
it has been my experience people believe what they want

You were not talking about movies? Could have fooled me. I wonder what you were referring to when you said this:



Among Us is a game of deception where crewmembers need to complete tasks and try to work out who the impostors are, who are out to kill all the crewmembers without getting caught.

Anyone can report a body or call an emergency meeting where discussions take place, followed by voting someone off.

When these discussions take place, accusations fly back and forth. "I saw the kill", "You were last seen with them and now they're dead" etc. You don't see all that happens, all you have is the word of the other people who claim what they saw. All you have is trust and faith that what they are saying is true. You want evidence of who done it? All you have is the testimony of others, or if you personally saw it you need to convince everyone else who done it.

What I'm saying is, even in a game like that in this day and age, there is a degree of faith involved -- believing without seeing based on the testimony of eyewitnesses. So when you say stuff like this:



What we have is the testimony of eyewitnesses accounts written down. Who are these eyewitnesses? Let's read it together in a snippet of a Parable.

Luke 16:27-31 - NIV

27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’

29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’

30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’

31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”

Oh you wonder what I meant when I said this?? Really? Dude, come on now!! The Lord of the Rings is ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS BOOKS OF ALL TIME!! The fact that someone made movies out of it half a fuckin century later does not change that. Dont be ridiculous

Also stop trying to argue by quoting the bible, thats incredibly annoying and pointless.

Your Among Us argument is SO STUPID, I dont even know were to start.
Its a game about trust and survival. Its not about fantastic claims!

That is so insanely different to people claiming something absolutely extraordinary that NO ONE IN THE WHOLE WORLD has any proof for.
There are eyewitness accounts for the Loch Ness monster, alien abductions, Big Foot, Mothman, Slender Man, hell even for Santa Claus! Still no one believes this bs, cause we do not have any evidence to back it up, dude.

It is not the same claim as someone telling you he saw some one else doing something, okay?

This post was edited by Modulok2405 on Oct 27 2023 05:20pm

What makes you think that I believe anything uncritically? Thats just idiotic assumptions because you are too stupid to even look into the basics of evolution. After "all you have shown me"? What did you think would happen? Did you think Lucy's feet would for some reason negate all of the incredible work of evolutionary science for me? Are you stupid?
Dolid you think fraudsters, failed experiments or questionable opinions or whatever else you showed me would have ANY influence on the work everyone else working in the field for centuries has ever done?

Why dont you stop believing in god? Arent there thousands of religious fraudsters walking around trying to scam people at any time in history at all times?

Evolution is a theory that I think is currently the best explanation for what it describes. I am absolutely not believing it uncritically. It is EXPLAINED. Explained in great detail, okay? Its not just pulled out of people's ass like religion.

You're talking about ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS BOOKS OF ALL TIME! Now let's talk about THE SINGLE MOST FAMOUS BOOK OF ALL TIME! You might have heard of it, it's called The Bible.

Also stop trying to argue by claiming: "no one could provide me any evidence backing up the claim of his existence yet", that's incredibly pointless.

Ahh, I see the concept of faith and trust and even survival is quite foreign to you. May I suggest you play a game called Among Us? You'll get to witness all 3 in the one. That is what I claim to be fantastic!

Here is another fantastic claim by Jesus himself.

John 20:26-29 NIV

26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”

28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”