Interesting interview with the TokenPay CEO. He brings many good points, if you want to learn more about TokenPay, watch this interview:

theres some really fishy shit going on with this. check out their recent twitter posts. 'scam' wouldn't be an unfair characterization.

Did you read the news?. The SEC is going to crack down on all ICOs now. Thats why Tokenpay (and most ICOs now) are banning americans from their icos, but they are refunding them their BTC. These people are legit.

Those crying scam are just a few angry people who dont want to be left out of this ICO (they are being refunded, yet they claim scam? lol), but you cant blame tokenpay for that. Blame the SEC.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/04/sec-steps-up-ico-scrutiny-with-order-to-freeze-plexcoin-assets.html

There was no "scam" in plexcoin, as a matter of a fact, everything was going well in that project, but the SEC stepped in and froze all the operation and the project. So tokenpay (like many other ICOs) are now just keeping americans out for this reason, and they are refunding them as we speak. They dont want to risk getting all the tokenpay project frozen by the SEC. If they allow americans in, they risk getting frozen by the SEC whenever it wants.

This post was edited by Golden_Order on Dec 23 2017 04:27pm

he sucked people into his plan knowing about the regulations beforehand and is now shutting down all US accounts and refunding them less value than they put in.

Now its 'ALL REFUND REQUESTS MUST BE MADE BY DECEMBER 31, 2017. ALL US ACCOUNTS WILL BE CLOSED AT THAT TIME. ', a weeks notice.. on twitter.. during peak holiday season or he keeps your money and closes your account anyways without honoring the investment.

That shit reeks.

Whether the FCC is problematic for him or not isnt the issue.
They should have planned ahead about whether they were accepting US citizen investments or not.
Instead he purposefully markets to them to stir up support, attention and investment and then pulls the rug out from underneath them.. creating bad PR and unhappy people.
very amateurish and people are understandably upset.

Anybody who invests has a huge set of huevos..

I wouldn't place 5% of my portfolio into cryptocurrency.. It's so volatile, who knows what it's going to do :s..

I have been very active in their telegram channel with over 9k members.

The tokenpay developing team have clearly said that if Americans don't submit their refund address they will send the BTC back from the address they originally invested from. Nobody is keeping nobody's BTC.

Also the refund is exactly the amount of BTC that was invested. No such thing as "less value". The BTC could have been right now at 30k or 10k whatever, nobody could predict the price beforehand. The investment was made in BTC and the exact amount they invested is the exact amount they will be refunded. They are getting their refund whether they want it or not, it was clearly stated by them. They are saying this because many americans dont want their refund, they want to keep the tokens, but its out of their control. Blame the SEC. So submit the refund address otherwise they send the BTC back to the address the person invested from. There is no scam.

The only thing I agree is that they should have prevented this mess before the ICO started. Bad move but far from being a scam. I do understand the angry, but blame the SEC first and secondly blame them for not preventing this, but it's far from being a scam because they are refunding as we speak.

Don't get me wrong, I agree the ICO has been a bit chaotic, but these people are legit. It just got out of control due to the overwhelming success and now the SEC problem.

This post was edited by Golden_Order on Dec 23 2017 09:06pm

Anyone want to team up and create some of these coins?

I don’t even care if it’s quality, we can just pump it until it’s up 500% in a month, then dump all our shit coins. Rinse & repeat.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Dec 23 2017 08:57pm

xlm ready to Pump, whales refilling and maintening price low.
Once it pumps it will be too late guys...

ALERT

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This post was edited by arw on Dec 25 2017 04:38pm

Sounds like the other hundred new coins.