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Apr 29 2013 03:47am
Quote (brmv @ Apr 29 2013 10:55am)
when did i say that i "don't believe anything in the bible"? there are some parts of the bible which have some historical or literary value - but that does not result in me believing in the religious ideas drown from it
and one thing for sure, i do not take the first part of genesis on face value - do you feel comfortable with young earth creationism?


Alright then. Do you believe that there was ever a man called 'Jesus' who lived the perfect life or not?

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You got caught making a plainly silly statement. It's all right if you just admit it. Smokescreens of denial don't suit you.


Nothing was plainly silly. I just know how you came up to that conclusion. Unfortunately you hit a bump in the road that steered you towards the wrong direction. You may have 'naturally' came up to your conclusion but somewhere along the way you stuffed something up.
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Alright then. Do you believe that there was ever a man called 'Jesus' who lived the perfect life or not?
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that two questions, i'll answer one: imo there was never anyone who lived a perfect life
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Apr 29 2013 03:51am
Quote (brmv @ Apr 29 2013 07:49pm)
that two questions, i'll answer one: imo there was never anyone who lived a perfect life


Vouch this.
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Apr 29 2013 04:05am
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that two questions, i'll answer one: imo there was never anyone who lived a perfect life


what is a perfect life?
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Apr 29 2013 04:16am
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what is a perfect life?


the person which raised that concept, namely 'CPK001' should answer that first
but since you are so interested in the topic, you are welcome to give your definition
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Apr 29 2013 04:27am
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the person which raised that concept, namely 'CPK001' should answer that first but since you are so interested in the topic, you are welcome to give your definition


I dont know what one is, thats why i was asking.

I assumed that with your claiming no one has lived one you knew what a perfect life was, my appologizes.

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Apr 29 2013 04:34am
Quote (Ylem122 @ 29 Apr 2013 10:27)
I dont know what one is, thats why i was asking.

I assumed that with your claiming no one has lived one you knew what a perfect life was, my appologizes.


while i do have my definition, i am not prepared to disclose it before 'CPK001' has given his
and that because i know that he will move goalposts by asking some other question without ever properly answering one
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Apr 29 2013 04:37am
Quote (brmv @ Apr 29 2013 06:34am)
while i do have my definition, i am not prepared to disclose it before 'CPK001' has given his
and that because i know that he will move goalposts by asking some other question without ever properly answering one


so perhaps, back when you posted:

Quote (brmv @ Apr 29 2013 05:49am)
that two questions, i'll answer one: imo there was never anyone who lived a perfect life


you should have actually said:

"what qualifies as a perfect life?"
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Quote (Ylem122 @ 29 Apr 2013 10:37)
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you should have actually said:
"what qualifies as a perfect life?"


no way, he would have given the answer: the life jesus lived or similar
let's see what his answer is now when you have raised the question independently

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Quote (AEtheric @ Apr 26 2013 04:40pm)
Well, how can we take it at face value when we are the ones who do our own defining when it comes to terms with things such as morality?  Should we trust a certain text not because we believe its true and tested it but because we should take it on blind faith?  We accept a text, not because it said do not commit adultery and therefore should be accepted because it is partially written by divinity, but rather that it fits our common sense and view of the world.  No one accepts the bible in a void.  We accept the absurdities of the bible not because we simply should for the better of our life and others lives, but rather because we feel compelled to through intuition telling us that these allegories and supernatural events happened, and our reasoning telling us that this is the best path available.  We might do so through other people, but, ultimately, the choice is up to us.


I'm not saying you need religion to lead a moral life, if you can do that on your lonesome, that's your thing. But it does lead multitudes to a better life precisely because it's (as laid out in the Bible) a testament to the experience(s) of those that have gone before us and "put the sign up on the wall."
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