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Mar 6 2026 04:32pm
It would mean the US and Israel would not have attacked. a bit like how the US does not attack N.Korea or directly against Russia or China.
I think the french came out a few days ago saying they are going to bolster their nuclear deterrent now that the US has proven itself unreliable.

Also re Lebanon, its a case of look at Iran, dont look at Lebanon, i think they stopped allowing food in to gaza as well for a few days. same old same old.


I read this as

"I ferdia want Iran to have nuclear weapons"

is that really your stance?

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France has already sent multiple war ships to act as escorts in and around the Strait of Hormuz. Their posturing about bolstering their nuclear deterrent is irrelivent. They've been a nuclear power for many years now.

Nobody wants another North Korea in the world. Threatening internationally by using nuclear weapons as a form of blackmail or threat. This is how Iran would behave given it's leadership's track record up till now.

I believe many people's propagandized hatred for Is Real, blinds their ability to take in a wholeistic view on current events. In that same vein, Is Real, is also not a perfect sweet little angel. However the threat of Iran's literal radical theological beliefs is an imminent threat.

The thorn (Iran) of the middle east grew out of control and it's about time someone cut it off.

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Mar 6 2026 05:18pm
I read this as

"I ferdia want Iran to have nuclear weapons"

is that really your stance?

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France has already sent multiple war ships to act as escorts in and around the Strait of Hormuz. Their posturing about bolstering their nuclear deterrent is irrelivent. They've been a nuclear power for many years now.

Nobody wants another North Korea in the world. Threatening internationally by using nuclear weapons as a form of blackmail or threat. This is how Iran would behave given it's leadership's track record up till now.

I believe many people's propagandized hatred for Is Real, blinds their ability to take in a wholeistic view on current events. In that same vein, Is Real, is also not a perfect sweet little angel. However the threat of Iran's literal radical theological beliefs is an imminent threat.

The thorn (Iran) of the middle east grew out of control and it's about time someone cut it off.


thats not what i wrote. if you look at post 460, thats what i wrote!!
ideally no one would have nukes, but alas the genie out of the bottle. i am merely saying if Iran did have nukes, the world would be a safer place. (i accept israel and the US disagrees).
Its a bit of a conundrum, the more countries have nuclear weapons, the more dangerous the world is, and yet those countries that have nuclear weapons are less likely to be attacked.
on balance, for humanity, its probably better for iran not to have nukes. but who am i to tell a country they cant have deterrent. if the world does not want more nukes then the US and Israel should stop doing bad things.

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Mar 6 2026 05:19pm
I dont disagree that the 60% was a deterrent, it was a deterrant. what im saying is you dont invade over deterrent level uranium. you sanction, pressure, negotiate, etc. and if it doesnt work they're left a starving nation with a deterrant. this is the long game but it was working, with the help of CIA stoking the protests and letting internal pressure build. but unlike ukraine we didnt fund and let an internal protest topple the govt, we just used their existence as a pretense for war.

the thing missing from your viewpoint is that regime change doesnt work. its not a question of if the replacement is better or worse, it a question of if it is viable. and it hasnt proved to be. not in iraq, not in afghanistan, not in syria, not in lebanon, not anywhere. we've never once done a successful regime change. we'll blow up the country, kill many US soldiers, spend trillions rebuilding, prop up a local govt, and it will be toppled as soon as we try and pull out. or we spend endlessly to stay, which is almost as bad. but it wont last, we'll get tired of it just like in iraq, and some potus will get elected on the promise of pulling out. they will, the local govt will be toppled, and extremists will fill the vacuum.


We tried to sanction and negotiate and pressure. For decades. Iran has been hostile to all Western democracies since 1979 and they've only gotten moreso. They can not be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons.

Your suggestion is shortsighted, we just starve them to death while leaving them capable of very quickly gaining the nuclear option? That's insane. It's only a deterrent until they decided to push it to weapons grade and then it's a threat.

The idea that we've never done a successful regime change is just a lie. Lol we've already achieved it successfully once in Iran... As I said, the threat is that the replacement will lead to something worse. A threat that I don't think is credible in this case.
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Mar 6 2026 07:34pm
Trump and his admin at fault for the school that was hit that killed like 165 kids. Trump voters are also responsible for this.

https://i.imgur.com/Ts1f3fx.png


It happens in wars. ALL WARS. You’d know that if you’d have ever been in a war zone. I’ve unfortunately had the experience of finding, gathering and helping ID bodies and ship them home or dispose of them in multiple conflicts while being shot at.

“War is Hell” is not just a convenient phrase. It’s the truth. Casualties happen and even the most advanced militaries in the world miscalculate and make mistakes whether it’s US or Russia or anyone else.
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Mar 6 2026 08:44pm
We tried to sanction and negotiate and pressure. For decades. Iran has been hostile to all Western democracies since 1979 and they've only gotten moreso. They can not be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons.
Your suggestion is shortsighted, we just starve them to death while leaving them capable of very quickly gaining the nuclear option? That's insane. It's only a deterrent until they decided to push it to weapons grade and then it's a threat.

The idea that we've never done a successful regime change is just a lie. Lol we've already achieved it successfully once in Iran... As I said, the threat is that the replacement will lead to something worse. A threat that I don't think is credible in this case.


you've sure eaten up Netanyahu's bullshit, hook line and sinker

the bolded is just absolute bullshit and you know it


vietnam was a complete and utter disaster, an embarrassment no one thought possible
afghanistan/iraq was again, an abject failure. complete waste of nearly 3 trillion dollars and tens of thousands of american lives, not to mention the hundreds of thousands wounded

do you , with your big brain, think iran is going to be different?

we are talking about a country with 90 million people. their standing army is 500,000 strong. for the US to stand a chance we'd need a 3:1 ration of men for a ground invasion and Im sorry but that is just not happening


you are so far out of your depth its embarassing and im surprised you still post here

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you've sure eaten up Netanyahu's bullshit, hook line and sinker

the bolded is just absolute bullshit and you know it


vietnam was a complete and utter disaster, an embarrassment no one thought possible
afghanistan/iraq was again, an abject failure. complete waste of nearly 3 trillion dollars and tens of thousands of american lives, not to mention the hundreds of thousands wounded

do you , with your big brain, think iran is going to be different?

we are talking about a country with 90 million people. their standing army is 500,000 strong. for the US to stand a chance we'd need a 3:1 ration of men for a ground invasion and Im sorry but that is just not happening


you are so far out of your depth its embarassing and im surprised you still post here


Thats not how conflict works we are not in the bronze age we arent charging with Calvary and Sword men.


thats not what i wrote. if you look at post 460, thats what i wrote!!
ideally no one would have nukes, but alas the genie out of the bottle. i am merely saying if Iran did have nukes, the world would be a safer place. (i accept israel and the US disagrees).
Its a bit of a conundrum, the more countries have nuclear weapons, the more dangerous the world is, and yet those countries that have nuclear weapons are less likely to be attacked.
on balance, for humanity, its probably better for iran not to have nukes. but who am i to tell a country they cant have deterrent. if the world does not want more nukes then the US and Israel should stop doing bad things.


Israel wouldnt do “bad” things to anyone if we werent provled or threatened.
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Mar 6 2026 09:46pm
Thats not how conflict works we are not in the bronze age we arent charging with Calvary and Sword men.


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do you think the IDF is going to snipe and drone Iranians like they did the women and children in Gaza?

I hope you realize Israel's lack of courage is why the fight went on as long as it did, the diaper army was shitting and pissing their pants when on ground patrol, they have no actual combat experience other than blasting kids from the safety of a remote bunker with their drone technology.

your hubris after all this is astounding. your 'defense' force is a joke
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Mar 6 2026 10:05pm
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you've sure eaten up Netanyahu's bullshit, hook line and sinker

the bolded is just absolute bullshit and you know it


vietnam was a complete and utter disaster, an embarrassment no one thought possible
afghanistan/iraq was again, an abject failure. complete waste of nearly 3 trillion dollars and tens of thousands of american lives, not to mention the hundreds of thousands wounded

do you , with your big brain, think iran is going to be different?

we are talking about a country with 90 million people. their standing army is 500,000 strong. for the US to stand a chance we'd need a 3:1 ration of men for a ground invasion and Im sorry but that is just not happening


you are so far out of your depth its embarassing and im surprised you still post here


Lol yeah I'm the one who's out of my depth. You're as deluded as the guys here who literally defend Nazism.

In 1979 Ayatollah Khomeini repeatedly called America "The Great Satan", lead chants of "death to America" and named it the primary enemy of the Iranian revolution, he also authorized terrorist attacks against America in 1979 including the kidnapping of American citizens. He also called Western democracy "the tool of fascists", and said it's a form of Satanic influence. Tell me how in your pea brain that does not constitute hostility.

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Mar 6 2026 10:22pm
do you think the IDF is going to snipe and drone Iranians like they did the women and children in Gaza?

I hope you realize Israel's lack of courage is why the fight went on as long as it did, the diaper army was shitting and pissing their pants when on ground patrol, they have no actual combat experience other than blasting kids from the safety of a remote bunker with their drone technology.

your hubris after all this is astounding. your 'defense' force is a joke


Yea, Israelis lack courage 🤣🤣
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Mar 6 2026 10:50pm
Nvm I'm dumb

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