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Mar 29 2023 10:33pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 30 2023 01:04am)
It's been a long time since democrats had any concept of "we go high". They may have told themselves that, but only in the same sense that they're avowed anti-nazi while supporting literal nazis these days
To have a flash from the past, let's recall what the 2016 campaign looked like;

https://i.imgur.com/RrXuMr2.png

This is about the same time the ground was swept out from under Icemage's feet and his sad devotion to that ancient religion lost its moral high ground.
So we're talking 7-10 years ago minimum, a bit more than a couple, time flies.

Nowadays the militantism among liberals is so rampant that even after this terrorist attack was the top story and the motive known, some high profile democrats still wound up making headlines for sympathizing with the child killer or overtly supporting it. That aide to a governor, some random ecelebs, whatever. Look at how the aussie trans militants were attacking a feminist activist just a matter of days ago and lauded by lawmakers there. At least most of them have abandoned the pretense of being civil and high minded, its trendy to overtly embrace political extremism now and moderation is explicitly shunned.


It seems somewhat coincidental that US politics went completely off the rails right after the US overturned a 64 year ban of public dissemination of propaganda produced for foreign audiences to combat "al-Qaeda
infiltrating the internet"


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The Smith–Mundt Modernization Act of 2012[33] was introduced by U.S. Congressman Mac Thornberry on May 10, 2012, in the House of Representatives. U.S. Congressman Adam Smith was a Co-Sponsor.[33] The bill purpose is "to authorize the domestic dissemination of information and material about the United States intended primarily for foreign audiences."[33] The act was added to the 2013 NDAA bill as section of 1078 to amend certain passages of Smith–Mundt Act of 1948 and Foreign Relations Authorization Act of 1987.[34] The Smith–Mundt Modernization Act of 2012 passed Congress as part of the NDAA 2013 on December 28, 2012.[34] Amendments made to the Smith–Mundt Act of 1948 and Foreign Relations Authorization Act of 1987 allow for materials produced by the State Department and the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) to be released within US borders.[35][36][37] U.S. Congressman Adam Smith stated with respect to the bill's purpose that al-Qaeda was infiltrating the Internet in order to promote anti-Americanism and that with passage of the Smith–Mundt Modernization Act of 2012 the U.S. government would be able disseminate public diplomacy information by the State Department to counter that in the Arabic language abroad.[36]
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Mar 29 2023 10:34pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Mar 29 2023 06:38pm)


he didn't share a name, video or manifesto. where is the self own?
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Mar 29 2023 10:43pm
Quote (DizzyBusiness @ 30 Mar 2023 06:33)
It seems somewhat coincidental that US politics went completely off the rails right after the US overturned a 64 year ban of public dissemination of propaganda produced for foreign audiences to combat "al-Qaeda
infiltrating the internet"


Politics in Europe also went off the rails at some point between 2011 and 2015, so I really doubt that US law about US media is the root cause. What's at play here are long-term political macro-trends, namely that the neoliberal consensus has broken down in the wake of the financial crisis, and the Davos class is stoking internal conflict and increasingly aggressive powergrabs by unelected technocrats in order to keep the party going a little bit longer.
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Mar 29 2023 11:01pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 30 2023 01:43am)
Politics in Europe also went off the rails at some point between 2011 and 2015, so I really doubt that US law about US media is the root cause. What's at play here are long-term political macro-trends, namely that the neoliberal consensus has broken down in the wake of the financial crisis, and the Davos class is stoking internal conflict and increasingly aggressive powergrabs by unelected technocrats in order to keep the party going a little bit longer.


I don't disagree with most of what you've said here, but I don't see how the same things happening in Europe mean the change in this law hasn't lead to an increasingly unrestrained US foreign policy and increasing domestic divides. One could argue that these social trends arising in Europe first (i don't know that they did) was a result of these methods of propaganda being tested on a culturally similar population (western liberal) before being employed within the US. Notice that it allows dissemination of propaganda produced for foreign audiences, which Europe would qualify as, within the US, so it very well could have been employed there first.

To me this lines up with the section I bolded from your comment. To be clear im not saying this is 100% what happened, but I don't see it as ridiculous.
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Mar 29 2023 11:22pm
At any rate, this story has certainly led to a flaming multiple car pileup in the newsmedia and political scene when it comes to the normal hack messaging. All the anti-gun groups have prompt response strategies to deploy ready for whatever makes the headlines and even Biden tried to seize on it initially, but when it turned out to be a terror attack by an anti-christian tranny we're left with the bizarre spectacle that's unfolding as the news clashes with its impulses to bury the story, to try to exploit it, to try to deny it or in a few rare cases try to play the sympathy-for-the-gunman role. That's how we wound up with Majorie Taylor Green being banned from twitter for denouncing a terror group while Moskowitz publicly berated her saying 'dead kids can't read'. Well shit, guess these kids can't be indoctrinated with transgender literature if they're dead, but that's one hell of a take. But yeah just look at the josh hawley stories right now, garland's response, the FBI saying they don't have a motive, and liberal outlets pulling out the stops with stories like this;
https://www.newsweek.com/nra-two-gun-rights-wins-after-nashville-shooting-colorado-nebraska-1791114

there are of course other hypocritical takes. Some fox news pundits who previously said terrorists should have their messages suppressed and forgotten so as not to motivate them turn around and say the manifesto should be read 'publicly and in full'.


I should check what Jonathan Greenblatt has been up to, this has probably already become a data point in the ADL's HEAT map under a 'white supremacist attack' label

This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 29 2023 11:24pm
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Mar 30 2023 04:13am
I watched through all the PBS newshour coverage of the shootings

Spent all their time talking to gun control advocates. Tried to talk about what kind of red flag laws or gun bans they could do. Started the coverage by saying the police had "given conflicting accounts of the shooters gender", without any more elaboration, and never brought up a motive for the attack at all or who was targeted. Even when talking about the red flag laws they wanted to say the shooter was 'suffering from an emotional disorder' without specifying that it was trans-related. The news was out by that point, and they were taking great pains to avoid informing their viewers that it was a trans terror attack targeting christian kids at a bible study. Instead its a haranguing moral lecture from a Brady Campaign spokeswoman (actually, the president of it, I mean wtf else does she do with her time than give speeches on PBS) demanding the liberal wishlist be granted by congress

If tomorrow Joe Biden walked out into 5th avenue and shot someone to death, PBS might put out a press release about how an unidentified white man with known white supremacist beliefs committed a shooting.
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Mar 30 2023 10:19am
Quote (Sakuraba @ Mar 29 2023 09:34pm)
he didn't share a name, video or manifesto. where is the self own?


he says to "starve them of attention" only to go on a tirade about it, lol. cmon
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Mar 30 2023 10:20am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Mar 30 2023 03:52am)


seems like a bunch of tourists going for a stroll to me :)
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Mar 30 2023 10:24am
Quote (TiStuff @ Mar 30 2023 01:40am)
horse tranny uygur tells trannies to arm up days before the shooting
Chunky Yogurt Tells Transgenders To Arm Up Against Republicans
https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/M/i/Y/U/MiYUi.caa.mp4


Reading that collection of words has caused me to have grammatical Ebola.
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