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Its cute when liberals try to meme.
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Quote (Kuggergug @ Jul 10 2021 09:17pm)
Its cute when liberals try to meme.


clearly offended 2 idiots. so it worked



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clearly offended 2 idiots. so it worked

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What a disingenuous crap. The conservative position on economic policy is "we dont want the government to regulate or otherwise interfere with how we run our business, and in turn, we dont want handouts or welfare". You obviously cannot have the second part without the first part.

Simply put, not wanting to rely on government assistance does not contradict taking government money in an extraordinary situation where encroaching government action leaves them no other coice. Government-mandated business closures (which Boebert vehemently opposed) have artificially pushed an otherwise thriving restaurant to the brink of bankruptcy and forced them to rely on handouts. Holding that against them is preposterous.

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What a disingenuous crap. The conservative position on economic policy is "we dont want the government to regulate or otherwise interfere with how we run our business, and in turn, we dont want handouts or welfare". You obviously cannot have the second part without the first part.

Simply put, not wanting to rely on government assistance does not contradict taking government money in an extraordinary situation where encroaching government action leaves them no other coice. Government-mandated business closures (which Boebert vehemently opposed) have artificially pushed an otherwise thriving restaurant to the brink of bankruptcy and forced them to rely on handouts. Holding that against them is preposterous.


yeah lmao what kinda of criticism is that? a business pays or collects all sorts of taxes on various parameters (income, regulations, sales, property; excise/utilities, etc.) and employs people and pays more taxes because of this (payroll taxes, social security, medicare) and then is criticized for taking “government” funds (taxed monies) provided to help businesses damaged by covid-19 and the government-ordered lockdowns

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 11 2021 06:46am)
What a disingenuous crap. The conservative position on economic policy is "we dont want the government to regulate or otherwise interfere with how we run our business, and in turn, we dont want handouts or welfare". You obviously cannot have the second part without the first part.

Simply put, not wanting to rely on government assistance does not contradict taking government money in an extraordinary situation where encroaching government action leaves them no other coice. Government-mandated business closures (which Boebert vehemently opposed) have artificially pushed an otherwise thriving restaurant to the brink of bankruptcy and forced them to rely on handouts. Holding that against them is preposterous.


Thats what happens when you have a Bachelors of Arts in facebook memes.
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 11 2021 05:46am)
What a disingenuous crap. The conservative position on economic policy is "we dont want the government to regulate or otherwise interfere with how we run our business, and in turn, we dont want handouts or welfare". You obviously cannot have the second part without the first part.


What a wonderfully naive take.
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yeah lmao what kinda of criticism is that? a business pays or collects all sorts of taxes on various parameters (income, regulations, sales, property; excise/utilities, etc.) and employs people and pays more taxes because of this (payroll taxes, social security, medicare) and then is criticized for taking “government” funds (taxed monies) provided to help businesses damaged by covid-19 and the government-ordered lockdowns


this kind of talking just shows how far away the mindset of the state and a lot of people is from reality

states somehow act as if they are a business that earns money

the state doesnt earn shit, they collect money, thats all and we desperately need this mindset back

its especially popular in germany, listen to people and without knowing better you would assume the state is some kind of 3rd party that is just sitting on a mountain of cash
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What a wonderfully naive take.


Are you of the opinion that it should be held against the owners of a thriving restaurant which was ordered to shut down by the government when they take government money to avoid lockdown-induced bankruptcy?

Also, the conservative position on economic policy that I laid out is correct. That conservatives are often times not acting in accordance with this stance is a different story. Doesn't change the fact that ideologically/ethically, the freedom from regulation and the rejection of handouts go hand in hand.


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Are you of the opinion that it should be held against the owners of a thriving restaurant which was ordered to shut down by the government when they take government money to avoid lockdown-induced bankruptcy?

Also, the conservative position on economic policy that I laid out is correct. That conservatives are often times not acting in accordance with this stance is a different story. Doesn't change the fact that ideologically/ethically, the freedom from regulation and the rejection of handouts go hand in hand.


I am of the opinion that American Conservatives use the "government out of our way" rhetoric to appeal to the gullible (and I consider you to be very gullible to right wing talking points), then act in exactly the opposite way because they obviously don't believe it.

The current push to regulate social media companies is pretty much the perfect example. Corporations are people, corporations deserve the right to lobby, corporations deserve the right to be free of government interferrence, corporations have the right to deny service for whatever reason they want. Oh, corporations made a move that I don't like? A move that is absolutely within the rights that I fought tooth and nail to give them? REGULATE REGULATE REGULATE!

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I am of the opinion that American Conservatives use the "government out of our way" rhetoric to appeal to the gullible, then act in exactly the opposite way because they obviously don't believe it.

The current push to regulate social media companies is pretty much the perfect example. Corporations are people, corporations deserve the right to lobby, corporations deserve the right to be free of government interferrence, corporations have the right to deny service for whatever reason they want. Oh, corporations made a move that I don't like? A move that is absolutely within the rights that I fought tooth and nail to give them? REGULATE REGULATE REGULATE!


The current push to regulate social media companies is only necessary because of their monopolistic market position which Big Tech is increasingly abusing... and not for economic gain, but rather to shape politics and the public discourse. Also, let me preemptively remind you of the fact that Amazon intentionally deplatformed Parler, a potential Twitter alternative, at the exact moment when there was a short window of opportunity for such an alternative to reach critical mass (in the wake of conservative outrage over Trump's twitter ban).

Also, nice deflection from the low IQ meme crossbones had posted.
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