Quote (Mangix @ 12 Nov 2020 04:31)

The Republicans in the deepstate rigged the elections to oust Trump, while being able to keep the voters.
They knew the US general population was too mentally retarded to vote him out so they made sure no matter what that Trump was outed.
They let him throw his temper tantrums and spread lies because it harms the democrats long term, while covering up all their tracks.
While slowly going against him in not so obvious ways like the GA sec of state situation.
Eventually hes replaced by good ole corporatism Joe for an election cycle while they build the base up more for a slam dunk 2022 to get the house without having to cheat.
This is why they kept the senate, made huge gains in the house, but not suspicious ones, yet lost the presidential election.
They even let the GA senate races go to run offs because they only need 1 seat and its pretty much guaranteed.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 11 2020 10:44pm)

Again, everyone needs to sit back and be patient. Come December 14th, we will be able to definitively state who is the next President. It will likely be Biden, but that is absolutely not a guarantee at this point in time. Those attempting to attack Trump for "not conceding" are idiots. Those attempting to defend Trump's "loss" are idiots. Allow the system to work as it's designed to work, save all the other bullshit for later.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 11 2020 10:45pm)

The bolded is not surprising at all. When the outstanding ballots in the presidential race have been counted (most of them come from deep blue states like CA/IL/NY/MA), 2020 will shape up to be a D+5 year. 2018 was a D+8.6 year. Hence, it is perfectly normal and had to be expected that Democrats would lose some House seats. The predictions where Democrats were supposed to pick up some seats were based on polls which had the poltical environment at D+(8-10).

Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 12 Nov 2020 04:46)

I don't think trump will ever be able to run as prez: he will age even more and obesity is killing him while republicans will find a new challenger, skilled, younger.
Be prepared to see him collecting donations to pay his debts tho, prentending he will run and shit.

Quote (Mangix @ 11 Nov 2020 19:49)

Its that hes actively blocking the transition process.
If he was letting them do their thing, with the context of "this may be a waste of time if things flip" and just waiting it out I wouldn't give 2 shits.
Thats the only thing thats shocking to me, that everyone is just okay with that. We have a god damn pandemic to deal with.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 11 2020 09:44pm)

No "coup" is required. Trump is using all legal and Constitutional means to compete for victory. This is not a "game". It's a competition. Which part of that statement confuses you?

Again, everyone needs to sit back and be patient. Come December 14th, we will be able to definitively state who is the next President. It will likely be Biden, but that is absolutely not a guarantee at this point in time. Those attempting to attack Trump for "not conceding" are idiots. Those attempting to defend Trump's "loss" are idiots. Allow the system to work as it's designed to work, save all the other bullshit for later.

Quote (Thor123422 @ 11 Nov 2020 19:58)

If they went to the states and convinced the states to change electors it would all be legal, but it would not be legitimate, it would not bein the interests of Democracy, it wouldn't be in the interests of the country, and it would be reasonably described as a coup.

I don't see every legal path as legitimate. That's where our hang up is.

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 11 2020 09:44pm)

This is false. Electoral votes are cast December 14th. If neither candidate reaches 270, which can happen for a variety of reasons (states being tied up in court, for instance), then the House and Senate are called to an immediately emergency session, and the House elects the President, the Senate elects the Vice President. Each state's House Delegation receives 1 vote, first to 26 wins. When it comes to states having a majority of representatives and regarding the number of senators, if red votes red, blue votes blue, there will be a second Trump term. This is referred to as the "Nightmare Scenario" on both the left and right.

Quote (Kippet @ 11 Nov 2020 20:04)

Cast and counted are different words. I feel like I've said this multiple times.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/15

Quote (InsaneBobb @ Nov 11 2020 10:07pm)

Electoral votes are cast and counted on the same day. Certification and the presentation of official documentation comes later, with great and completely unnecessary ceremony. I believe you're simply confused on the process is all.