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tbh id have expected china to feed as much soy to their men as possible to turn them into little puny sheep bitches. just keep a select few strong for the military, even though they've understood for years the next wave doesnt matter for hand to hand combat and will be fought on computers. strong men are a liability, so this strikes me as odd.
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It makes sense because it resembles some sense of rational logic. They don't fear effeminate man, they just don't want their society swayed into thinking men being women-like is appropriate.


You can just say "This matches my intuition, so I believe it". Would save you some typing. It's exactly why you are a vacuum to propaganda.

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tbh id have expected china to feed as much soy to their men as possible to turn them into little puny sheep bitches. just keep a select few strong for the military, even though they've understood for years the next wave doesnt matter for hand to hand combat and will be fought on computers. strong men are a liability, so this strikes me as odd.


It's just a cheap attempt to sew division among the populace. When things turn bad they will have "weak men" to blame, among the usual suspects like minorities and such.

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You can just say "This matches my intuition, so I believe it". Would save you some typing. It's exactly why you are a vacuum to propaganda.


Imagine being a science major and thinking masculinity is a social construct and people are socialized into it. Maybe try watching national geographic sometime to see how males in so many other mammal species behave?
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You can just say "This matches my intuition, so I believe it". Would save you some typing. It's exactly why you are a vacuum to propaganda.



It's just a cheap attempt to sew division among the populace. When things turn bad they will have "weak men" to blame, among the usual suspects like minorities and such.


i can certainly see it as a distraction strategy to keep them busy, but i dont think on the net it comes out in their favor to have more big strong men in their society. maybe they feel so in control that it doesnt matter if guys bench 100 lbs or 300 lbs as they're all tracked 24-7 anyways.
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Imagine being a science major and thinking masculinity is a social construct and people are socialized into it. Maybe try watching national geographic sometime to see how males in so many other mammal species behave?


Imagine knowing the person you're talking to knows more about biology than you ever will ever even be exposed to and then thinking he hasn't been exposed to the idea that masculinity is natural.



Males tend to be larger and more aggressive. The idea that males *should* be aggressive is a social construct. This isn't that hard lol.

Another example

Females giving birth is a biological fact. Females being mothers is a social construct. Like, apes don't give mothers day cards.



Gonna let you scratch your brian for a while on these. Maybe you'll actually give it some thought, although I doubt it.
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Imagine knowing the person you're talking to knows more about biology than you ever will ever even be exposed to and then thinking he hasn't been exposed to the idea that masculinity is natural.



Males tend to be larger and more aggressive. The idea that males *should* be aggressive is a social construct. This isn't that hard lol.

Another example

Females giving birth is a biological fact. Females being mothers is a social construct. Like, apes don't give mothers day cards.



Gonna let you scratch your brian for a while on these. Maybe you'll actually give it some thought, although I doubt it.


:rofl:

They tend to be that way due to biological and hormonal factors that a bio 101 student can talk about and is evident in all of nature. The should is besides the point. You know biology but are turning your cognitive dissonance to 11/10 for political ideological reasons.
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:rofl:

They tend to be that way due to biological and hormonal factors that a bio 101 student can talk about and is evident in all of nature. The should is besides the point. You know biology but are turning your cognitive dissonance to 11/10 for political ideological reasons.


I see you're especially resistant to even thinking about this issue. Let's try it another way then. Can you name a single aspect of masculinity that is socially constructed? I'll even start you out with one for free. The idea that blue should be preferred by boys is not biological in any way. Now it's your turn.

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i can certainly see it as a distraction strategy to keep them busy, but i dont think on the net it comes out in their favor to have more big strong men in their society. maybe they feel so in control that it doesnt matter if guys bench 100 lbs or 300 lbs as they're all tracked 24-7 anyways.


Or it's just not really an accurate view of how things there are.

Over the last few years i'v been around a fair amount of Chinese people in my MBA. More than on one occasion I engaged them on political topics, some involving China's behavior. In reality they actually don't view what their government is doing as bad, and in reality the one's I spoke to kind of defended certain actions like what was happening with the Uyghurs. These were also highly educated, coming from affluent families, many with some sort of background with parents working in business.

Their whole society is built on hierarchy, like most Asian cultures. They don't push their kids to be average but push them to be the best, mostly in the arena of academia and working. There's a reason why they talk about their 996 schedules and their top CEO's push and encourage those slave like hours, it's to excel and outcompete. So this notion that they want their men to be weak is completely illogical and antithetical to many other blatantly obvious examples of how they are striving for dominance. Whether it's the Olympics, business, militarily and imperialistically they want to be better.

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Or it's just not really an accurate view of how things there are.

Over the last few years i'v been around a fair amount of Chinese people in my MBA. More than on one occasion I engaged them on political topics, some involving China's behavior. In reality they actually don't view what their government is doing as bad, and in reality the one's I spoke to kind of defended certain actions like what was happening with the Uyghurs. These were also highly educated, coming from affluent families, many with some sort of background with parents working in business.

Their whole society is built on hierarchy, like most Asian cultures. They don't push their kids to be average but push them to be the best, mostly in the arena of academia and working. There's a reason why they talk about their 996 schedules and their top CEO's push and encourage those slave like hours, it's to excel and outcompete. So this notion that they want their men to be weak is completely illogical and antithetical to many other blatantly obvious examples of how they are striving for dominance. Whether it's the Olympics, business, militarily and imperialistically they want to be better.


So you're saying the rich people are happy with the status quo. Tell me more about how the whole society is represented by affluent Chinese working in America.



Here's another example. There is absolutely nothing biological about pulling a fishing boat behind a truck. My mom always gets comments about how "I didn't know women could launch a boat like that" when she puts her boat in the water to go fishing.

Still waiting on you to come up with an example of society determining what's masculine.

and if I'm being honest my mom does her own yard work, launches her own boat, guts and cleans her own fish, splits her own wood, etc. She's more "masculine" than basically everybody here.

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So you're saying the rich people are happy with the status quo. Tell me more about how the whole society is represented by affluent Chinese working in America.



Here's another example. There is absolutely nothing biological about pulling a fishing boat behind a truck. My mom always gets comments about how "I didn't know women could launch a boat like that" when she puts her boat in the water to go fishing.

Still waiting on you to come up with an example of society determining what's masculine.

and if I'm being honest my mom does her own yard work, launches her own boat, guts and cleans her own fish, splits her own wood, etc. She's more "masculine" than basically everybody here.


ill beat ur moms ass bro.
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