that is wrong, blacks kill more blacks than whites kill more whites, statistically. you should read the statistics sometimes. or just read in general.



so statistics are right? cool, thought so.

Statistics require context and knowledge about the subject at hand to be interpreted correctly.


Otherwise, you arrive at crap like "the statistics show that birthrates fell in lockstep with a reduction of the stork population. checkmate, you sheep who claim that babies come out of women!"

I feel because it's statistics about minorities you want to have context and knowledge to pull the conclusions in predetermined directions.

Statistics is worthless without context. If I got in my car and accelerated for a full minute, would you come back and tell me "HA, 100% OF THE TIME THE CAR GOT FASTER! YOU REALLY THINK BREAKS EXIST? THE STATISTCS SAY OTHERWISE!" No, of course not. That would be dumb. But that is the exact thing you are doing when you argue race statitics without context.

For instance, we know that the underlying rate of drug use is pretty much equal across races, yet minorities get arrested at far higher rates. We also know that for equal crime with the same set of facts a black person is far more likely to get convicted than a white person, and will get a harsher sentence than the white person would have. And we know that once you're in jail once you've lost a massive amount of opportunity which makes it more difficult to do anything but crime when you get out.

All of this compounds on itself to create a situation where the legal system causes more crime in the long run in minority communities, starting from an equal position.

This is all very important context to evaluating statistics. If you just look at the statistics you can come away saying "blacks are more prone to crime because they're black" when in reality it's "blacks are prone to more crime because they are specifically targeted by the legal system with more convictions, harsher punishments, and lack of opportunity".

holy molly you get so triggered.

and yeah, you're right, black on black crime is so high because "they are specifically targeted by the legal system with more convictions, harsher punishments, and lack of opportunity".

:)))

You seem to misinterpret who I am or where I stand: I am fervently anti-woke, I would describe myself as "racially conservative", I was a long-time supporter and defender of Trump, and if I could go back in time to 2016 and decide the outcome of that election with full knowledge of how Trump's presidency turned out, I would still prefer that over a president Hillary. I am not some liberal who's wearing ideological blinders.

I dont think that selective policing is the root of the higher homicide rates among blacks. The bulk of homicides are committed in a gang context, and gang violence is more prevalent in poor/underprivileged neighborhoods where people of color are concentrated.

Blacks are overrepresented in serial killer statistics.

Imagine thinking "black on black crime" is an actual argument.

And why are PoC concentrated in these areas? Racist lending practices, redlining, racial covenants, and so on. Stuff that goes back around a CENTURY.

This post was edited by Surfpunk on Jun 24 2021 10:59am