Quote (Modulok2405 @ Oct 18 2023 10:24pm)

predestination is just a weak cherrypicking version of predetermination written by religious idiots not able to count to 3.

If everything is predetermined, then no one choses to be gracious or not. You are programmrd to do what you do since forever. No ones deserves more or less, nothing is fair or unfair if god exists.

Quote (CPK001 @ Oct 18 2023 08:03pm)

It's in the Bible so learn to deal with it.

Quote (CPK001 @ Oct 18 2023 02:03pm)

It's in the Bible so learn to deal with it.

Quote (Modulok2405 @ Oct 18 2023 05:29am)

I agree. If people make shit up out of thin air, its nothing more than bullshit.

So if you imagine something, at least be able to explain how that could have theoretically happened.
Thats the only way, if you wanna be taken seriously.
Then its fine and we as a society can work with the idea and accept it as a theoretical possibility of truth.

Quote (Meanwhile @ Oct 18 2023 06:45am)

The Rapture is an eschatological position held by some Christians, particularly those of American evangelicalism, consisting of an end-time event when all dead Christian believers will be resurrected and, joined with Christians who are still alive, together will rise "in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air." The origin of the term extends from the First Epistle to the Thessalonians in the Bible, which uses the Greek word harpazo, meaning "to snatch away" or "to seize"

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Quote (Modulok2405 @ Oct 18 2023 04:05pm)

"Its in the bible" doesnt mean anything.

Quote (TiStuff @ Oct 19 2023 05:33am)

you commit a crime? and you tell the judge. "i cant be held accountable because no such thing as free will"

the two choices? 'atheist perspective
you cant have free will because a supreme being knows what your going to choose?
but you can have free will if your an accident doing what random chemical reactions in the brain tell you what to do

Quote (TiStuff @ Oct 19 2023 05:25am)

well then we are in agreement. the list i have been discussing that was "proof" of monkey man, were examples of chit science
1. haeckels embroyo drawings
2. piltdown man
3. nebraska man
4. whale evolution
5. junk DNA
6. J Harlen Bretz and what the instution od science can do if one steps outa line
7. Australopithecus afarensis aka lucy

Quote (Modulok2405 @ Oct 18 2023 09:41pm)

First sentence is bullshit.

But for the rest of your response: Yes. Correct.

Quote (Modulok2405 @ Oct 18 2023 09:42pm)

None of those 7 points is just pulled out of anyone's ass.

Quote (TiStuff @ Oct 19 2023 07:09am)

really? a slave to random chemical reaction = free will ?



we could call it lying?

Quote (Modulok2405 @ Oct 18 2023 10:31pm)

1. Maybe. I dont know.

2. You could call anything lying if that makes you feel better.
But remember: Your opinion and objective facts are two different things.

Some of those might have lied, others might have brought up their thoughts with good reason. Something you should do as well.