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May 26 2021 12:13pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ May 26 2021 01:08pm)
I get that, and my last line about Chicago was of course hyperbole. It still seems to me as if these official numbers understate gang violence. This is probably a field where the dark figure of crime is particularly large, based on the neighborhoods in which gangs are operating, the general level of crime, the fear of the residents, the illegal status of many people living there (i.e. if they get murdered, it can be swept under the rug without authorities noticing), and so on.



Well, your own source says that gangs account for just 13% of all homicides. Cops, on the other hand, have to deal with all murderers and criminals, not just gangs. If one side has to deal with 100% of all criminals and kills 6 people per day in the process (most of them in self-defense!), and the other side accounts for 13% of crime and kills 5.2 people per day in the process (almost none of them for justified reason), then the latter group is clearly much more murderous despite an (ostensibly) lower absolute number of killings.

The point made by this tweet draws a really crappy false equivalence. Your point that being a cop is not as dangerous or stressful as cops and their lobbyists claim to be is valid, but the argument from the tweet is not suitable to support this point.
And like I stressed many times before whenever this debate came up: there is tremendous risk stratification between different cops. Being a cop in a posh suburb is not a tough job. Being a cop in an inner city warzone is. At least the cops who are truly serving the ghetto are subject to great risk and have a right to complain.


the tweet itself clearly states cops normally only kill half as many people as gangs. the uptick again is noteworthy. it was just a cheeky tweet tbh.

all of the played out context is still valid, cops mostly kill violent criminals, gang members mostly kill gang members and RARELY target cops, being a cop in the south side of Chi is worse than Naperville, etc etc etc.

if the narrative that being a cop is so stressful wasnt used to justify thugery so often i wouldnt bother attacking it. its simply too pervasive.

ask your average black and blue flag flying idiot how many cops they think are killed intentionally nationwide per year and you'll hear 500, 1000, or even more. its 50. 1 per state. five, zero.
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May 26 2021 12:24pm
Quote (thesnipa @ 26 May 2021 20:13)
the tweet itself clearly states cops normally only kill half as many people as gangs. the uptick again is noteworthy.

Did the uptick persist to this day, or was that a last-summer thing?

Generally speaking, it could well be that this was a side-effect of the pandemic and the lockdowns. Tensions were running high and too many people (on all sides) lost their sanity.


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if the narrative that being a cop is so stressful wasnt used to justify thugery so often i wouldnt bother attacking it. its simply too pervasive.

ask your average black and blue flag flying idiot how many cops they think are killed intentionally nationwide per year and you'll hear 500, 1000, or even more. its 50. 1 per state. five, zero.

Well, these two things are related, but not entirely the same. The implied defense for police violence is: "the people in this (*winkwink*) neighborhood are violent animals, and we have to treat them as such to protect ourselves". Which was always bogus... but even if it were true, it would still not excuse most cases of police violence which make the national news.

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May 26 2021 12:31pm
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Did the uptick persist to this day, or was that a last-summer thing?

Generally speaking, it could well be that this was a side-effect of the pandemic and the lockdowns. Tensions were running high and too many people (on all sides) lost their sanity.



Well, these two things are related, but not entirely the same. The implied defense for police violence is: "the people in this (*winkwink*) neighborhood are violent animals, and we have to treat them as such to protect ourselves". Which was always bogus... but even if it were true, it would still not excuse most cases of police violence which make the national news.


Ive seen the defense used when someone gets brutalized in gated communities. its just a shit excuse for cop bullshit. there are valid excuses for police behavior, even police murders, but the dangerousness of their job is not one of them. its a side effect of a few getting pelted with glass bottles at protests tbh.
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May 26 2021 12:32pm
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May 26 2021 03:12pm
Another race hoax committed by a black dude.

Are we surprised?

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May 27 2021 06:01am
Quote (thesnipa @ May 26 2021 01:51pm)
https://nationalgangcenter.ojp.gov/survey-analysis/measuring-the-extent-of-gang-problems



the "20 people shot in gang violence over the weekend in chicago" new stories are news because they're an uptick, not typical year round.

the point is that the narrative that being a cop is a justifiably stressful profession because its so dangerous is a lie. period. its not fact. being a cop is not even on the top 10 most dangerous jobs, but if one body slams some guy for no reason fox news comments are filled with "i get why he's stressed, being a cop is SO dangerous".



Lmao you’re a coward dude. Keyboard warrior and sjw combined
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May 27 2021 06:04am
Quote (Duckling @ May 27 2021 07:01am)
Lmao you’re a coward dude. Keyboard warrior and sjw combined


u always seem to lack the why mall cop.
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May 27 2021 06:07am
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u always seem to lack the why mall cop.



No reason to dismantle your word vomit. But literally, you’re making cops out to be a villain, giving no credibility to the difficulty that arises in situations to the job they do, when you are nothing but a soyboy and would never offer up to help keep your fellow citizen safe. Embarrassing of a man you are bro. Hard to believe you do any serious work
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May 27 2021 06:11am
Quote (Duckling @ May 27 2021 07:07am)
No reason to dismantle your word vomit. But literally, you’re making cops out to be a villain, giving no credibility to the difficulty that arises in situations to the job they do, when you are nothing but a soyboy and would never offer up to help keep your fellow citizen safe. Embarrassing of a man you are bro. Hard to believe you do any serious work


i have a bachelors degree in CJ, was nearly a cop, and worked with cops for 10 years in programs to reintroduce felony prisoners to society.

my point is the stress of their job doesnt excuse them attacking citizens, not that their job is stress free. i chose not to do their job because of the stress.

but prison workers have a far more stressful job.

you just see what you want to see tbh. good job keeping the mall safe tho.
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May 27 2021 06:30am
Quote (thesnipa @ May 27 2021 08:11am)
i have a bachelors degree in CJ, was nearly a cop, and worked with cops for 10 years in programs to reintroduce felony prisoners to society.

my point is the stress of their job doesnt excuse them attacking citizens, not that their job is stress free. i chose not to do their job because of the stress.

but prison workers have a far more stressful job.

you just see what you want to see tbh. good job keeping the mall safe tho.



Wow big boy degree you got there. Again you failed to do the job and now you attack them for doing it. A gallon of soy a day keeps you the boy at bay, I suppose. Of course your job you had to do was much more stressful than the job you didn’t do. Are you just mad I’m calling all your keyboard warrior crap? Also, nice job pot calling the kettle black. And now, I can see your jealously of me defending my fellow citizens while you were just too much of a coward to do that for your career. Nothing but top kek here
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