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why are the left shooting at rand paul?
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Something something systemic racism oppression blah blah blah
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we get it, you are humorless scum.

yes its a joke and accurately describes despicable behavior by leftists. I understand you don't like that being pointed out so you lash out. a weak excuse for a man.


Yawn. So sad that you don't realize you are the joke. If I posted a similar incident with libertarians you would be up my ass in 2 seconds about "NOT ALL LIBERTARIANS", and I know that because you have done it to me and others for far less.
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relevant about 50 cops die per year to gunfire and intentional vehicular homicide.

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relevant about 50 cops die per year to gunfire and intentional vehicular homicide.


except the police don't go hunting for people to kill, unlike gangsters
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relevant about 50 cops die per year to gunfire and intentional vehicular homicide.


2.7 murders by cops per day, really?

Let me guess: the guy is disingenuously trying to frame all killings by the police, the big majority of which happen in self-defense or the defense of innocent bystanders, as "murders".
Also, 5.2 deaths per day to gang violence seems kinda low. That would average to 1900 homicides by gangs per year. Sounds like a rowdy weekend in Chicago rather than the tally for the entire country over a full year... ;)

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2.7 murders by cops per day, really?

Let me guess: the guy is disingenuously trying to frame all killings by the police, the big majority of which happen in self-defense or the defense of innocent bystanders, as "murders".
Also, 5.2 deaths per day to gang violence seems kinda low. That would average to 1900 homicides by gangs per year. Sounds like a rowdy weekend in Chicago rather than the tally for the entire country over a full year... ;)


https://nationalgangcenter.ojp.gov/survey-analysis/measuring-the-extent-of-gang-problems

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The total number of gang homicides reported by respondents in the NYGS sample averaged nearly 2,000 annually from 2007 to 2012. During roughly the same time period (2007 to 2011), the FBI estimated, on average, more than 15,500 homicides across the United States (www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-1). These estimates suggest that gang-related homicides typically accounted for around 13 percent of all homicides annually.


the "20 people shot in gang violence over the weekend in chicago" new stories are news because they're an uptick, not typical year round.

the point is that the narrative that being a cop is a justifiably stressful profession because its so dangerous is a lie. period. its not fact. being a cop is not even on the top 10 most dangerous jobs, but if one body slams some guy for no reason fox news comments are filled with "i get why he's stressed, being a cop is SO dangerous".
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the "20 people shot in gang violence over the weekend in chicago" new stories are news because they're an uptick, not typical year round.

I get that, and my last line about Chicago was of course hyperbole. It still seems to me as if these official numbers understate gang violence. This is probably a field where the dark figure of crime is particularly large, based on the neighborhoods in which gangs are operating, the general level of crime, the fear of the residents, the illegal status of many people living there (i.e. if they get murdered, it can be swept under the rug without authorities noticing), and so on.


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the point is that the narrative that being a cop is a justifiably stressful profession because its so dangerous is a lie. period. its not fact. being a cop is not even on the top 10 most dangerous jobs, but if one body slams some guy for no reason fox news comments are filled with "i get why he's stressed, being a cop is SO dangerous".

Well, your own source says that gangs account for just 13% of all homicides. Cops, on the other hand, have to deal with all murderers and criminals, not just gangs. If one side has to deal with 100% of all criminals and kills 6 people per day in the process (most of them in self-defense!), and the other side accounts for 13% of crime and kills 5.2 people per day in the process (almost none of them for justified reason), then the latter group is clearly much more murderous despite an (ostensibly) lower absolute number of killings.

The point made by this tweet draws a really crappy false equivalence. Your point that being a cop is not as dangerous or stressful as cops and their lobbyists claim to be is valid, but the argument from the tweet is not suitable to support this point.

And like I stressed many times before whenever this debate came up: there is tremendous risk stratification between different cops. Being a cop in a posh suburb is not a tough job. Being a cop in an inner city warzone is. At least the cops who are truly serving the ghetto are subject to great risk and have a right to complain.

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