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Jun 12 2020 06:52pm
Quote (IceMage @ 12 Jun 2020 20:24)

despite having a basically untouchable legislative majority and same-party executive from 2009-2010, the (D)s spent zero time removing (D) Confederate statues, and spent zero time passing criminal justice reform or police reform. they did pass 'free healthcare' though! and their current candidate for president (Biden-(D)) worshipped and gave the eulogy for Sen Robert Byrd (D), the Democratic 'conscience of the senate' who was in the kkk and filibustered what would become the Civil Rights Act of 1964

some privileged lefty's twitter will never negate these truths
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/letters-editor-mitt-romney-good-100047169.html
Letters to the Editor: Mitt Romney is a good man. That doesn't mean he deserves an apology for 2012

Romney is still not forgiven by the lefties (despite being their paid-for sell-out subversive attack dog against President Trump) for daring to run for President (and losing like a loser) in 2012. he showed how sorry he was for this act by accusing 'people, including minorities of not understanding that black lives matter'
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@MittRomney
is marching with a group of nearly 1,000 Christians to the White House. Here he is on video saying why he’s walking: “... to make sure that people understand that Black Lives Matter”

this is why you do not apologize to pale pasty privileged lefties. they hate you no matter what. especially if you run for President against their selected candidate, or if you are a woman and/or a minority who doesn't 'act the way they expect you to'
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Jun 12 2020 07:07pm
Quote (IceMage @ Jun 12 2020 05:59pm)
So was Trump wrong to criticize his predecessors for not getting this done?

It's true that there's a bunch of problems that are extremely difficult to make progress on. But Trump and his supporters always use these problems as an indictment of previous presidents and politicians. You can't wield that attack line and then fall back on a different one when Trump fails at addressing the same problems.

Furthermore, Trump does deserve criticism for the way he has given legitimacy to KJU with basically nothing in return. His endless praise of the dictator has been embarrassing. Not to mention he's incapable of staying focused on one issue, sacrificing our relationship with South Korea over trade and military costs.


North Korea has legitimacy. It is a nuclear-armed state. His endless praise has been embarrassing (to me), but it's also his way of expressing goodwill to a negotiating partner. We are left with the president we have, not the ideal we wished we had. I wouldn't worry about South Korea. They're dependent on American support to balance an increasingly interventionist China. We are the adult at the table in that relationship, South Korea does not have the will or the means to break away from the American orbit at this point in time.
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Jun 12 2020 07:17pm


Ooh look. Trump has 57.3% of the vote in the PaRD poll, and that's against all the other comers... combined.
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So Reagan or Bush 1? They are one of the countries we refused to acknowledge had nuclear capability or were nuclear armed. Israel is the other one.

A counter example to your claim that going nuclear is one-way is South Africa. They were nuclear and now they're not.


Reagan, both Bushes and Clinton. China was probably already too strong during Obama's tenure to pull off something really risky.

Israel's status as a nuclear power isnt officially acknowledged because the West cant officially endorse their nukes while it unofficially welcomes it (makes Israel less reliant on NATO to defend itself).

South Africa is a special case in a lot of ways. They were more reliant on trade and diplomatic relations with the West than NK/Iran/etc ever were. They were not a complete pariah, but still suffering a ton from the boycotts (which were a reaction to the apartheid regime), so giving up their nukes was a viable path for them to gain back some credibility on the world stage. By contrast, countries like North Korea, Iran and similar ones are so far down the rabbit hole that giving up nukes would change their villain status. And there were also unique circumstances when South Africa gave up their nukes (strong communist/Cuban influence in nearby Angola, instability in Namibia). And last but not least, it was already forseeable at the time they dismantled their bombs that the country would soon be governed by the ANC, that is, by blacks. For various reasons, it was better for whites in South Africa if the country's black government after the end of apartheid did not have nukes at its disposal.

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Jun 12 2020 09:13pm
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Ooh look. Trump has 57.3% of the vote in the PaRD poll, and that's against all the other comers... combined.


shocking that a forum full of trolls would be for a troll of a President

and lets not forget the irrefutable evidence of Bernie or Hulk Hogan being the Dem nom based on PaRD polling results
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Jun 12 2020 09:43pm
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shocking that a forum full of trolls would be for a troll of a President

and lets not forget the irrefutable evidence of Bernie or Hulk Hogan being the Dem nom based on PaRD polling results




So you're saying you're NOT voting for Trump? :D
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Jun 13 2020 08:20am
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North Korea has legitimacy. It is a nuclear-armed state. His endless praise has been embarrassing (to me), but it's also his way of expressing goodwill to a negotiating partner. We are left with the president we have, not the ideal we wished we had. I wouldn't worry about South Korea. They're dependent on American support to balance an increasingly interventionist China. We are the adult at the table in that relationship, South Korea does not have the will or the means to break away from the American orbit at this point in time.


It seems that you're in constant excuse mode. You don't seem to be affirming what the president has done as good and wise, but rather dismissing or minimizing his moves.

Let me ask this, what has Trump done in regards to North Korea that you think is praiseworthy? What risks did he take that paid off? What moves has he made since the last meeting that could pay off? You're probably more informed on this stuff than I am, so I'm curious.

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Jun 13 2020 09:29am
Quote (Giannis @ Jun 12 2020 11:13pm)
shocking that a forum full of trolls would be for a troll of a President

and lets not forget the irrefutable evidence of Bernie or Hulk Hogan being the Dem nom based on PaRD polling results


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