Long term, not short term. Missing the forest for the trees, the obesity in gaza is largely a result of poor living conditions caused by Israel's apartheid oppression/blockade.

Multiple studies have been done on the link between malnutrition and obesity in poor areas including Gaza,shockingly every one focused on Gaza lists Israel as a major factor in the malnutrition of Palestinians. Can send the links or you can easily find them yourself with Google, doubt you would read them anyway though, tweets are probably more your speed yeah?

Troll? You add literally nothing to any discussion besides some drive-by edgelord comments because you are too ignorant to do anything but repeat whatever you hear on social media

This post was edited by DizzyBusiness on Nov 4 2023 03:25pm

You've hit lows previously thought to be impossible.

Cry more, you have nothing else to say.

maybe the rocket hamas launched fell back down on the hospital because it was too fat

Rashida Tlaib followed up her public statements and twitter posts demanding a """"ceasefire"""" in gaza just yesterday and invoking the 'from the river to the sea' war cry, with a video today in which she champions people chanting 'no peace on stolen land'. And captions it for good measure, so no way she's pretending its just incidental.



Now my initial reaction would be to say that this is simply cognitive dissonance, that nobody could be calling for a ceasefire but also chanting 'no peace'. They would seem at face value to be mutually exclusive concepts. But really that's not true, you need simply only see the world through Tlaib's eyes to understand. She's calling for Israel to cease its fire, not for Hamas to cease its fire. Its a very simple and coherent worldview. Israel must stop waging war upon Hamas, and Hamas must continue massacring Israelis. Perfectly cromulent. Although to be fair, she did pretend in her responses that she was calling for "peaceful coexistence" but we can simply explain that away by saying she's a dirty lying whore.

Yes indeed, they're calling for a unilateral ceasefire... we can keep attacking you, but we don't want you to fight back.

The offer which has been open since Oct 7th is to trade one Israeli/foreign hostage for dozens or even hundreds of incarcerated Hamas terrorists, a trade ratio that Israel obviously cannot accept in its current situation.

It's also obvious why Hamas isn't responding to Bibi's recent offer of a ceasefire in exchange for a release of the hostages. They would have no guarantee that the ceasefire lasts/they could escape Gaza during its duration/that Israel wouldn't still track them down and wipe them out at a later point in time. Dying now while prompting Israel to inflict as much PR damage onto itself as possible is the best the Hamas fighters can achieve in their current situation; it's also what their leadership wants.

But my question was why the Western pro-Palestinian and pro-peace crowd didn't pick up Bibi's proposal. They claim to be primarily concerned with the protection of innocent civilian life, they either conveniently ignore the hostage situation or outright condemn it, and their line of reasoning hinges on the notion that Hamas fights for the oppressed, downtrodden people of Palestine, that Hamas cares about their well-being and that improving the lot of the Palestinians is the ultimate goal of their actions. Under these premises, there is ZERO reason for the Western pro-Palestinian crowd to not support this proposal, to not demand a release of the hostage in exchange for a ceasefire. Yet they don't. Which imho shows that they subconsciously know how flawed the aforementioned premises are; that they know that Hamas doesn't actually give a shit about the civilians of Gaza and that the eradication of Israel, rather than improving the lives of Palestinians, is the true goal.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 4 2023 05:58pm

I dont think anyone in the thread has anything good to say about Hamas. A ceasefire on condition of return of hostages is a humanitarian move by Israel, and yes, Hamas should be even further condemned for not taking up this offer, and yes, it shows how little Hamas cares about innocent civilians (i.e. all these bombs dropping and circumstances deteriorating each out there is no ceasefire instead unrelenting war). 100% pro-Palestinian posters here, there and everyone should be condemning Hamas right now.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 4 2023 06:23pm

you still cannot become fat without a calorie surplus