i have to laugh that when i smear "libertarians" libertarians get upset. yet you also try to rub the ignorant fringe of leftist BLM defund the police types in the lefties of pard each chance u get.

you're doing that thing again, where you latch onto the part of a post, twist and strawman it. my facebook comment meant that evidence is abound from those that i read on facebook, but that since i cant link it here and wouldnt bother to dig it up you challenging me to "find proof" is just silly.

in any case i wouldnt describe myself as an unresearched libertarian, the more i researched the less libertarian ive become. that doesnt change the fact that i test as left leaning libertarian on any test given. what i believe and who i vote for arent the same thing, im more of a pragmatist than anything and willing to vote for just about anyone who i think can get my top priority items into law.



lol ok

kneeling for a criminal dog.



This post was edited by Dmitriy on Apr 29 2021 02:15pm

Worshipped a box of donuts this morning too

'Libertarians take issue with me smearing them yet libertarians also criticize fringe Leftist BLM rioters. How do you explain that!!!'

Shocking rebuttal.

I have never claimed the fringe of BLM necessarily constitutes the ideology of any democrat or leftist here, let alone 'every chance' i get. Poor deflection.
Criticizing them remains valid.

As I said before, some blue lives matter guy on facebook that defends unjust police killings is not representative of libertarianism. at all.
Obviously I will reject an attempt to misrepresent libertarianism like that. For good reason.



I correctly recognized you have no proof, among other flaws, and you brought up the concept of years old facebook comments in response.

If you do not want to try to substantiate your false claims thats fine and duly noted.

I dont think asking for proof is silly but maybe thats just me. (not even what I did but ok. noting you have no proof and challenging you to find proof are not the same thing)



Right you are some ignorant and unprincipled statist that tested left-lib scrub on some online test. Jill Stein and 'democratic' socialism are not libertarianism.
It shouldn't be a surprise that I take issue with you sometimes presenting yourself as an authoritative libertarian and misrepresenting it as pro-murder cop apologists to others.

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Apr 29 2021 02:24pm

You're seeing so much red you dont even realize we're saying the same thing Cam. i can only laugh.

Surf's post wasnt a shot at libertarians generally, it was a shot at people who claim to be libertarian and aren't applying principles equally. thats like the whole point of the picture lol.

maybe take a breath because u react to the word "libertarian" in any post like a bull to a red cape, when my entire point was these people aren't real libertarians. similar to what you're lobbing at me lol.

should i get flustered because you called me a statist? lol. maybe a pivot is best here as you're unlikely to realize we're in agreement, what about me reads statist in terms of policies i support? im not saying you're wrong, just curious.

Sure you have backtracked some on the claim that they are libertarians in response to what I said then called me a jerk. Great.

We definitely are not saying the same thing on a number of points.


"lul we are saying the same thing!" in response to a numerous points of disagreement. oof.

as the starting point of the premise on the meme is that SOME people who call themselves libertarians because its fashionable are unprincipled i thought that was understood, but of course you were too upset to start from the right inputs. i told u early on i was making that distinction, then 3 or so posts later you told it to me as if it was news. im not going to bother with a breakdown when you're strawmanning on the core of the argument. u can keep ur tertiary strawmans as well lol.

expected dishonesty and dodge

i took clear issue with a few points and how it was originally worded and for good reason.