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Quote (El Shadday @ May 4 2019 03:32pm)
Attributing our irresponsible attitudes so that someone else "pays" for our mistakes is a limiting concept ...
We are 100% responsible for our mistakes and correctness.


Dwelling on mistakes is a lower human concept. When balanced out with prudence forgiveness allows us to be so much more.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ May 9 2019 04:07am)
Dwelling on mistakes is a lower human concept. When balanced out with prudence forgiveness allows us to be so much more.


Why dwell on sins when you can give them to Jesus and He can forgive them?
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Quote (xfrodobagginsx @ 5 May 2019 23:43)
It's a legal thing. If the President pardons a person for their crime, they are no longer responsible to pay by going to prison. It's the same thing with Christ. He can give you a pardon so that you are no longer responsible and won't have to pay for your sins (crimes). But He won't force your pardon on you. You must accept it through faith in Jesus Christ.


I understood your point of view and respect.
In this case divine justice is not perfect ...
we are 2.3 billion Christians on the planet.
the rest of the population would be doomed to eternal damnation?

Quote (EndlessSky @ 9 May 2019 01:07)
Dwelling on mistakes is a lower human concept. When balanced out with prudence forgiveness allows us to be so much more.


exactly right !!!
each according to his works.
we have to dominate our evil inclinations every moment of our existence.
the theory of salvation is being eliminated by itself, it is empty and unfounded.
Thiago 2 a Faith without works is dead.

This post was edited by El Shadday on May 11 2019 07:43am
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Quote (El Shadday @ May 11 2019 01:39pm)
I understood your point of view and respect.
In this case divine justice is not perfect ...
we are 2.3 billion Christians on the planet.
the rest of the population would be doomed to eternal damnation?



exactly right !!!
each according to his works.
we have to dominate our evil inclinations every moment of our existence.
the theory of salvation is being eliminated by itself, it is empty and unfounded.
Thiago 2 a Faith without works is dead.


I don't think that there are 2.3 billion Christians in the world, but even if there is, only those who are born again are actually saved from eternal damnation. MOST Christians are not actually saved from eternal damnation because they haven't truly placed their faith in Jesus Christ and His blood sacrifice on the cross to pay for their sins, believing that He died and rose again.

The Bible clearly says that good works cannot save you from eternal damnation. Only placing your FAITH in Christ Jesus and His blood Sacrifice.


Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Romans 10:13
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Galatians 2:16
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
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Quote (xfrodobagginsx @ 11 May 2019 14:34)
I don't think that there are 2.3 billion Christians in the world, but even if there is, only those who are born again are actually saved from eternal damnation. MOST Christians are not actually saved from eternal damnation because they haven't truly placed their faith in Jesus Christ and His blood sacrifice on the cross to pay for their sins, believing that He died and rose again.

The Bible clearly says that good works cannot save you from eternal damnation. Only placing your FAITH in Christ Jesus and His blood Sacrifice.


Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Romans 10:13
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Galatians 2:16
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.


got it
in your view all those who do not believe in Jesus will be condemned?
can you consider this as God's perfect and absolute righteousness?
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Based you didn't worship Jesus the right way see you in hell suckers
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Quote (El Shadday @ May 12 2019 02:10pm)
got it
in your view all those who do not believe in Jesus will be condemned?
can you consider this as God's perfect and absolute righteousness?


I am going to give you Bible verses. Interpret these for me and tell me what these mean to you:

Jesus said this. What do you think it means?

For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
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