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Aug 17 2012 12:15am
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http://i46.tinypic.com/29lxnxi.jpg


Not how it works. At least learn the theory you so dearly hold close to your heart such that you ignore evidence to the contrary.
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#452
Aug 17 2012 12:16am
Well I'm sorry you can't agree. And I'm puzzled as to how you can't see my picture the way the website should have explained it.
I'm gonna call it a night

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Aug 17 2012 12:17am
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Well, all stars are not distributed isotropically but rather fractally. Gamma rays can issue from AGN (Active Galactic Nuclei) or quasars that are ejected from AGN's.

"Galaxies are not distributed randomly throughout space but are instead arranged in an intricate "cosmic web" of filaments and walls surrounding bubble-like voids. There is still no compelling observational evidence of a link between the structure of the cosmic web and how galaxies form within it. However, such a connection is expected on the basis of our understanding of the origin of galaxy angular momentum: disk galaxies should be highly inclined relative to the plane defined by the large-scale structure surrounding them. Using the two largest galaxy redshift surveys currently in existence (2dFGRS and SDSS) we show at the 99.7% confident level that these alignments do indeed exist: spiral galaxies located on the shells of the largest cosmic voids have rotation axes that lie preferentially on the void surface. " - Detection of the effect of cosmological large-scale structure on the orientation of galaxies
Ignacio Trujillo, Conrado Carretero, Santiago G. Patiri

Survey of the nearby universe maps the distribution of about 75,000 galaxies (small blue dots). The placement of each galaxy in the radial direction is proportional to its distance from the Earth (which is located at the intersection of the two wedges), and its angular position (or right ascension in hours of arc) corresponds to its location along a thin strip in the sky. The galaxies clearly trace a network of filamentary structures.


That doesn't answer my question, you basically said "I have a theory that goes against observation but I won't explain how to reconcile this discrepancy".
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Aug 17 2012 12:19am
Quote (simpleforce @ Aug 17 2012 12:16am)
Well I'm sorry you can't agree. And I'm puzzled as to how you can't see my picture the way the website should have explained it.
I'm gonna call it a night


LOL

You're just making up your own big bang theory now. Possibly it has something to do with your religion?

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Aug 17 2012 12:20am
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That doesn't answer my question, you basically said "I have a theory that goes against observation but I won't explain how to reconcile this discrepancy".


What theory of mine goes against observation? I just showed you how stars are distributed fractally, and this is from observation.
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#456
Aug 17 2012 12:22am
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What theory of mine goes against observation? I just showed you how stars are distributed fractally, and this is from observation.


Then why are distant gamma-ray bursts and supernovae distributed isotropically throughout the sky?



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Aug 17 2012 12:30am
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Then why are distant gamma-ray bursts and supernovae distributed isotropically throughout the sky?

http://heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/cgro/images/cgro/2704_grbs_fluence.jpg


Isotropic fractal:



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Aug 17 2012 12:33am
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Then why are distant gamma-ray bursts and supernovae distributed isotropically throughout the sky?

http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/lect/cosmology/batse2k.gif


That's outdated. Mind giving me a study and not just a picture?

Aims. We analyze and characterize the angular distribution of selected samples of gamma ray bursts (GRBs) from Batse and Swift
data to confirm that the division in two classes of short- and long-duration GRBs correspond also to the existence of two distinct
spatial populations.
Methods. The angular distribution is analyzed by using multifractal analysis and characterized by a multifractal spectrum of dimensions.
Different spectra of dimensions indicate different angular distributions.
Results. The spectra of dimensions of short and long bursts indicate that the two populations have two different angular distributions.
Both Swift and BATSE long bursts appear to be homogeneously distributed in the sky with a monofractal distribution. Short GRBs
follow instead a multifractal distribution for both the two samples. Even if BATSE data may not give a secure interpretation of their
angular distribution because of the instrumental selection effects that mainly favor the detection of near GRBs, the results from Swift
short GRBs confirm this behavior, also when are included GRBs corrected by the redshift factor. The distributions traced by short
GRBs, up to z = 1, depict a universe with a structure similar to that of a disordered porous material with uniformly distributed
heterogeneous irregular structures, appearing more clustered than what expected.

z=1 Multifractality of Swift short GRBs?
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#459
Aug 17 2012 12:36am
Here's a good study that shows how the isotropically homogeneous view is wrong.

We introduce and study two new concepts which are essential for the quantitative analysis of the statistical quality of the available galaxy samples. These are the dilution effect and the small scale fluctuations. We show that the various data that are considered as pointing to a homogenous distribution are all affected by these spurious effects and their interpretation should be completely changed. In particular, we show that finite size effects strongly affect the determination of the galaxy number counts, namely the number versus magnitude relation (N (< m)) as computed from the origin. When one computes N (< m) averaged over all the points of a redshift survey, one observes an exponent α = D/5 ≈ 0.4 compatible with the fractal dimension D ≈ 2 derived from the full correlation analysis. Instead the observation of an exponent α ≈ 0.6 at relatively small scales, where the distribution is certainly not homogeneous, is shown to be related to finite size effects. We conclude therefore that the observed counts correspond to a fractaldistribution with dimension D ≈ 2 in the entire range 12 ⪅ m ⪅ 28, that is to say the largest scales ever probed for luminous matter. In addition our results permit to clarify various problems of the angular catalogs, and to show their compatibility with the fractal behaviour. We consider also the distribution of Radio-galaxies, Quasars and γ-ray bursts, and we show their compatibility with a fractal structure with D ≈ 1.6–1.8. Finally we have established a quantitative criterion that allows us to define and predict the statistical validity of a galaxy catalog (angular or three-dimensional).

Finite size effects on the galaxy number counts: Evidence for fractal behavior up to the deepest scale

F.Sylos Labinia, b, c,
A. Gabriellia,
M. Montuoria, b, d,
L. Pietroneroa, b

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Aug 17 2012 12:37am
Quote (AEtheric @ Aug 17 2012 02:33am)
That's outdated. Mind giving me a study and not just a picture?


http://gcn.gsfc.nasa.gov/gcn/batse_grbs.html

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