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Aug 19 2024 06:45am
Quote (thesnipa @ 19 Aug 2024 14:29)
i'd agree 100% for the short term. i think long term she needs to open up to more policy discussion, but that's also assuming trump discusses more policy for her to counter. if he doesnt she can stay vague.

Trump's agenda is pretty well-known, even if he doesn't keep spelling it out every single day. Also, he has already been president, he can point to his first term and how things were back then.


Speaking of Kamala and her policies:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/08/16/harris-economy-plan-gimmicks/

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Vice President Kamala Harris’s speech Friday was an opportunity to get specific with voters about how a Harris presidency would manage an economy that many feel is not working well for them. Unfortunately, instead of delivering a substantial plan, she squandered the moment on populist gimmicks.

You know you've fucked up when you're a Democratic candidate for president running against Trump and the WaPo outright trashes you. :rofl:



Speaking of leading MSM outlets calling Kamala out:

"The Dems are delighted. But a coup is still a coup."
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/17/opinion/election-dnc-convention.html



Seems like the honeymoon period is over.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 19 2024 06:46am
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Aug 19 2024 06:56am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 19 2024 07:45am)
Trump's agenda is pretty well-known, even if he doesn't keep spelling it out every single day. Also, he has already been president, he can point to his first term and how things were back then.


Speaking of Kamala and her policies:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/08/16/harris-economy-plan-gimmicks/


You know you've fucked up when you're a Democratic candidate for president running against Trump and the WaPo outright trashes you. :rofl:



Speaking of leading MSM outlets calling Kamala out:

"The Dems are delighted. But a coup is still a coup."
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/17/opinion/election-dnc-convention.html



Seems like the honeymoon period is over.


its pretty simple, trumps most sure path to victory is to stay on point and not ramble. its just nearly impossible for him to do as a person. border, inflation, economy, foreign wars. rinse, repeat.

no pro israel rallies, no christains are under attack rallies, no wah wah my free speech rallies, etc.
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Aug 19 2024 07:05am
Quote (Handcuffs @ Aug 18 2024 11:04pm)
Do y'all ever talk to people in-person with different views than yourself?


Even the most liberal people I talk to openly say they're just anti-Trump, not so much pro-Kamala. There's a lot of relief that its Kamala and not Biden, though. Like Icemage said, its not the actual neoliberals who are bellyaching over having no primary elections this year, which makes sense because if they actually cared about democracy they probably wouldn't be liberals in the first place. Those lefties are in the streets outside the DNC instead of inside it today ^^
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Aug 19 2024 07:28am
Quote (thesnipa @ 19 Aug 2024 14:56)
its pretty simple, trumps most sure path to victory is to stay on point and not ramble. its just nearly impossible for him to do as a person. border, inflation, economy, foreign wars. rinse, repeat.

no pro israel rallies, no christains are under attack rallies, no wah wah my free speech rallies, etc.


Absolutely. Trump is his own worst enemy, as usual. Still, there's three more months in this campaign, so I don't see how Kamala can pull off avoiding policy and let "good vibes" carry her across the finish line.
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Aug 19 2024 07:33am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 19 2024 09:28am)
Absolutely. Trump is his own worst enemy, as usual. Still, there's three more months in this campaign, so I don't see how Kamala can pull off avoiding policy and let "good vibes" carry her across the finish line.


Fucking hate that important decisions like choosing a president to lead the country is framed in language like 'good vibes'. Society as a whole is becoming so simple and shallow, soundbites and tik-tok shorts, so many people can't be bothered to really think about things and just want zingers given to them on a plate. It's not just politics but overall culture across the board.
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Aug 19 2024 07:36am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 19 2024 08:28am)
Absolutely. Trump is his own worst enemy, as usual. Still, there's three more months in this campaign, so I don't see how Kamala can pull off avoiding policy and let "good vibes" carry her across the finish line.


Biden won in 2020 by hiding in a basement, having 2 total public appearances and taking almost zero questions or scrutiny for his whole race, a non-existent campaign relying entirely on the media to carry him to power on anti-trump storylines.
This worked because people always take out their dissatisfaction on the incumbent, and covid had blindsided Trump, so all Biden needed to do was get out of the way.
Can Kamala actually campaign on being "not biden" when the public is universally dissatisfied with the.... Biden/Harris administration?

It defies conventional logic, and defies basic logic, but its also completely unprecedented waters. We've never had an incumbent rudely thrown off a rooftop like they wish they had done with Jimmy Carter. Its clearly a gamble, but it absolutely relies on Kamala avoiding policy for the rest of this campaign and trying to hide in a bunker like Biden did, because every time she opens her mouth all people are going to think about is Biden
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Aug 19 2024 07:55am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 19 2024 08:28am)
Absolutely. Trump is his own worst enemy, as usual. Still, there's three more months in this campaign, so I don't see how Kamala can pull off avoiding policy and let "good vibes" carry her across the finish line.


If she's not pressed on policy by trump we can be sure she wont be by interviewers in the media, so then it's just a game of pretending everything is good enough that people shouldnt vote in the FACIST RACIST DICTATOR. if she's forced to confront the fact that the country is a mess in a lot of ways then she needs to present how she's better to fix it, but if its not broke dont fix it, that's her plan until she needs to change.
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Aug 19 2024 08:29am
Quote (Goomshill @ 19 Aug 2024 15:36)
Biden won in 2020 by hiding in a basement, having 2 total public appearances and taking almost zero questions or scrutiny for his whole race, a non-existent campaign relying entirely on the media to carry him to power on anti-trump storylines.
This worked because people always take out their dissatisfaction on the incumbent, and covid had blindsided Trump, so all Biden needed to do was get out of the way.
Can Kamala actually campaign on being "not biden" when the public is universally dissatisfied with the.... Biden/Harris administration?

It defies conventional logic, and defies basic logic, but its also completely unprecedented waters. We've never had an incumbent rudely thrown off a rooftop like they wish they had done with Jimmy Carter. Its clearly a gamble, but it absolutely relies on Kamala avoiding policy for the rest of this campaign and trying to hide in a bunker like Biden did, because every time she opens her mouth all people are going to think about is Biden


In 2020, you had the worst health crisis in a century plus the worst race riots in three decades. And said health crisis also shredded the great economy which had been Trump's strongest argument for reelection. And it gave Biden cover for his basement campaign. Aaand Biden was actually the right guy for playing the role of "generic Democrat who will restore normalcy and otherwise won't rock the boat too much".


Trump was the incumbent, the onus of solving the country's problems was on him. This time around, the roles are reversed. Biden/Harris is the incumbent administration, the onus for solving the country's problems is on them, and they're failing at it just as much as Trump was failing in 2020. Moreover, Trump is really bolstered by the benefit of hindsight. His foreign policy seems a lot more successful, now that we've experienced the utter mess that Biden created. His pre-covid economy contrasts very favorably with Biden's. As does his handling of the border.


Even if Kamala isn't Biden, she is too entangled with his admin and its track record. Hence, I see no way for Kamala to win this race if it turns into a "change election" focused on policy and track records. Her best, and probably only, hope is to turn it into a "choice election" between two different personalities. If Trump doesn't see this, or doesn't listen to his advisors who are surely telling him the same thing, then he deserves to lose.

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Aug 19 2024 03:53pm
https://x.com/JackPosobiec/status/1825334812309164533
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pittsburgh-diners-fume-after-restaurant-cleared-staged-harris-campaign-stop-mindboggling
https://x.com/sdemarcoii/status/1825321770397680012

They kicked everyone out of a diner to do a scripted photo op. They kicked everyone out of a bodega to do a scripted photo op pretending to be a casual moment of eating doritos, but had to film it in multiple takes because they screwed it up. Real Clinton Hot Sauce vibes. Is Kamala really this out of touch or are the democrats just so used to dealing with Clinton and Biden and can't fathom spontaneity or normal human social interaction

Who the fuck brings in a van full of activists to play extras in the background of your supposedly humanizing visits to convenience stores?
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Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 19 2024 02:53pm)
https://x.com/JackPosobiec/status/1825334812309164533
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pittsburgh-diners-fume-after-restaurant-cleared-staged-harris-campaign-stop-mindboggling
https://x.com/sdemarcoii/status/1825321770397680012

They kicked everyone out of a diner to do a scripted photo op. They kicked everyone out of a bodega to do a scripted photo op pretending to be a casual moment of eating doritos, but had to film it in multiple takes because they screwed it up. Real Clinton Hot Sauce vibes. Is Kamala really this out of touch or are the democrats just so used to dealing with Clinton and Biden and can't fathom spontaneity or normal human social interaction

Who the fuck brings in a van full of activists to play extras in the background of your supposedly humanizing visits to convenience stores?


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