Judaism is a religion. When a Eastern European person of Hebrew decent married someone like a Russian or Pole the latter didn’t automatically become a Jew because the Hebrew maybe practiced Judaism. Even if they did adopt the religion that doesn’t somehow mean they were no longer white.

Like lol, what an absolutely retarded thing to say.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Apr 25 2021 10:29pm

I don't fault you for not knowing about this actually. I didn't know about it either until I spent a lot of time with Israeli graduate students in my masters program.

Jewish does not necessarily refer to somebody who practices or believes in Judaism. Jewish means "people from Judea", and is just as much an ethnic group as it is a religious group. Israel is chalk full of people who would be religiously considered atheist, but who still identify as Jewish for this reason.

It's also the reason why you couldn't just deconvert and stop being a target in the holocaust. Jewish people have always been recognized as an ethnic group. You might refer to the ethnic group as "Hebrew", but that separation hasn't been meaningful for all of the history we are concerned with, so I didn't make the distinction.



Still, it's yet another example of you not knowing the first thing about a subject and then declaring somebody who knows vastly more than you stupid because you disagree with them. It's probably your most toxic trait, the immediate willingness to dismiss somebody because you disagree instead of asking why they disagree.

and to be clear. I'm not saying I'm an expert on this topic. I'm saying I know vastly more than you because you made it clear you don't know anything about the subject at all. I'd bet thundercock and Bogie could correct me on a lot of things if they were so inclined.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 25 2021 10:39pm

Listen to what she is saying.

She took a genetics test and it indicated that she had some significant quantity of European ancestry. This is a serious challenge to her world-view, because she does not identify as white, and yet she knows that "whiteness" is something which is inherited by way of skin and ancestry, and her identity as an "indigenous", "Latinindad" person has been existentially challenged.

Normal, healthy individuals don't think this way. They understand intuitively that the sum of one's experiences can't be boiled down to their genetic ancestry. And yet this is the sad state of the modern left. We are going to look back in 50 years and be embarrassed that these people inhabited our country.

https://onezero.medium.com/a-dna-test-told-me-im-white-here-s-why-it-s-wrong-9e6b20f128e4

Here's the full article. You and Black made a lot of assumptions from the title and part of the first pararaph because it appeared to confirm your "libs bad derp" gut feeling, when in reality her position is not contradictory in any way, and she is well versed in different definitions of race.



This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 25 2021 10:58pm

To the best of my knowledge, Irish and Germans and whatnot were never considered non-white, only Southern Europeans and Slavs were for a brief period.

Yes, the demarcation of the dominant social group changed over time, from white anglo-saxon protestant (WASP) to white protestant to just white, so this shows that the in-group vs out-group boundaries are subject to the effects of cultural and demographic change. At the same time, it shows that the dominant social group was always defined by more factors than skin color or ethnicity alone, and that whiteness itself was not used as arbitrarily as you suggest.

I hope you realize that a very broad swath of latinos, probably the majority of them, are, to some degree, the descendants of European settlers and conquerors, so that the notion that there is any inherent contradiction between her "latinidad" and whiteness (in the sense of European ancestry) is ignorant and amusing.


Of course it is wokeism, it's actually almost a textbook example.
- She is very much playing into the woke mindset of a fierce and irreconcilable contrast between white slavers/racists/beneficiaries of unearned privilege on the one side and oppressed/exploited/enslaved/disadvantaged blacks, latinos and indigenous people on the other side.
- The drama she sees in the fact of her partially white ancestry has a strong similarity to the (racist) idea of 'racial impurity', just this time with the roles reversed. (She quite explicitly stated that she and her social circle consider whites to be inferior in some sense.)
- The way she defines herself via her group identity instead of as an individual, and how she's clearly juggling for victimhood status, are also typical of the contemporary woke zeitgeist where victimhood and belonging to the right identity group comes with very tangible perks.
- And last but not least, the petulant defiance of biological facts in favor of feelings and arbitrary self-definitions ("I am a strong and beautiful pansexual attack helicopter, and you have no right to tell me otherwise!!!") is also typical of the woke left.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Apr 25 2021 11:12pm

Irish weren't considered for quite a while. Southern Europeans not being considered is a great point in favor of white not being European. However, the best example is just that a half-half cross of white and black never produces a white person, because it's societal and not biological or ancestral.

You are leaving out that the definition fo white changed with the demarcation of dominant social group. The definition of white is not arbitrary, it's intentionally defined in specific ways by the dominant groups to exclude people from power. So it's arbitrary in the sense that there's nothing physical about it, but it's not arbitrary because it has been specifically defined by specific groups for specific reasons.

It's really clear from what you used to label her as woke that you didn't read the article. Do better.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Apr 25 2021 11:12pm

Dumb people gonna dumb

pretty much sums up every religious people who rather believe in something not real than believe in themselves.