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Sep 29 2023 03:54pm
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Sep 29 2023 10:54pm)
God cant create beings with free will because his omnipotent nature makes every step they take predetermined.
I dont know if I use my free will or not. Feels like it, yeah.
I personally would - if I had to take a wild guess - think free will is a real thing which is perfectly fine for me since I dont believe in the god claim.

But who knows? I dont.

And what did I evade? The Genealogy of Jesus? When did we talk about that?


God's Will and our free will intertwine. Think of it like 2 snakes wrapping around eachother.

God's Will is achieved through our free will. You see this when Joseph is sold as a slave to Egypt by his own brothers.

Genesis 50:18-21

18 His brothers then came and threw themselves down before him. “We are your slaves,” they said.

19 But Joseph said to them, “Don’t be afraid. Am I in the place of God? 20 You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done, the saving of many lives. 21 So then, don’t be afraid. I will provide for you and your children.” And he reassured them and spoke kindly to them.

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Sep 29 2023 09:40pm
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Sep 29 2023 05:49am)
I am not dawkins, I dont care what he "admits", its not like he is the bearer of truth or something lile that*lol

Havent looked into lucy, its a turbulent weekend. Little one has birthday. But I will, I promise.


ok 'lucys feet will be on hold or now.

so today we will do her hip. how did it get reconstructed to be a human hip? whats the takeaway? in this case it was poor fossil condition.
so yea? is the mocking warranted? unbelievable what can pass as science
"Fixing" Lucy Fossil with a Power Saw - Dr. David Menton (480p)

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Sep 29 2023 11:48pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Sep 29 2023 05:05pm)
perhaps there is a difference between predetermined and known ?



dawkins is reffered to as a high priest of 'atheism and many people hang on his words.

happy birthday to the kid



1. Predetermined and known is the same thing because the only way to know the future is predetermination.

2. Atheism has no high priests and no one takes anybodies word for granted. There is no one above all others. Its not a religion.

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God's Will and our free will intertwine. Think of it like 2 snakes wrapping around eachother.

God's Will is achieved through our free will. You see this when Joseph is sold as a slave to Egypt by his own brothers.

Genesis 50:18-21

18 His brothers then came and threw themselves down before him. “We are your slaves,” they said.

19 But Joseph said to them, “Don’t be afraid. Am I in the place of God? 20 You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good to accomplish what is now being done, the saving of many lives. 21 So then, don’t be afraid. I will provide for you and your children.” And he reassured them and spoke kindly to them.


Try to make sense when you write something. This is absolute horsecrap.
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Sep 29 2023 11:50pm
Quote (TiStuff @ Sep 30 2023 05:40am)
ok 'lucys feet will be on hold or now.

so today we will do her hip. how did it get reconstructed to be a human hip? whats the takeaway? in this case it was poor fossil condition.
so yea? is the mocking warranted? unbelievable what can pass as science
"Fixing" Lucy Fossil with a Power Saw - Dr. David Menton (480p)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=embed/EeO0JlZsXio


Do you think I glued that skeleton together?
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Try to make sense when you write something. This is absolute horsecrap.


If you can't understand this fairly simple concept then how can you understand other topics in the Bible? Truly, truly I tell you we can't even begun to scratch the surface.

What I put isn't all that hard to understand, I even included an example for you. It's not my problem if you have trouble with comprehension.
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Sep 30 2023 06:49am
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Sep 29 2023 10:50pm)
Do you think I glued that skeleton together?


what?? all this stuff you talk? its was all just trolling?
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Sep 30 2023 07:36am
Quote (TiStuff @ Sep 30 2023 02:49pm)
what?? all this stuff you talk? its was all just trolling?


None of it was trolling, but I still havent looked into the lucy case and also still dont know why you bring it up? Was Lucy crucial for evolution theory and where it stands today? Would the theory be different without this specimen? Not trolling, genuinely asking before I look it up.

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Sep 30 2023 11:20am
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None of it was trolling, but I still havent looked into the lucy case and also still dont know why you bring it up? Was Lucy crucial for evolution theory and where it stands today? Would the theory be different without this specimen? Not trolling, genuinely asking before I look it up.


'shes supposed to be the best example.
"would the 'theory be different?" naw it would just be a theory with one less fraud
evolution (macro) is unique among the institution of science. never has there ever been so much fraud and embarrassment over any other theory. why do you think that is? one would think with all the fraud and chit science that goes with the belief of macro evolution that it would challenge their faith. but they waver not

it shouldnt be hard to find lucys feet (Australopithecus afarensis)
(not literally find them :)

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the a-bom-i-nation of de-sol-ation:
https://ibb.co/8mCk4Lt


Outer Darkness, weeping & gnashing of teeth:
https://ibb.co/WHHw2t7


This post was edited by lodd222 on Sep 30 2023 05:39pm
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